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Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Vortex - Feb 27, 2007 8:36:25 am PST #7336 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I also liked the way that they concentrated on HRG and family for the entire episode, rather than trying to break it up and have scenes with other characters.


Fiona - Feb 27, 2007 8:57:30 am PST #7337 of 10001

Just butting in with a "Life on Mars" heads' up for anybody interested: there's no new episode tonight, because of the footie.


Kate P. - Feb 27, 2007 9:25:00 am PST #7338 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

c) the knowledge that Claire has powers and Bennet's dealings with the Haitian and his safehouses, etc.

d) the details of the escape plan

I think it'll be the last two. Initially I thought the Haitian would take everything and anything about Claire, but that would make it nearly impossible for Bennet to return to his old life. I'm assuming that the Haitian has already wiped Lyle's and Mrs. Bennet's memories of the whole ordeal and Claire's powers, but if he was going to take away all of Mr. Bennet's memories of Claire, he would have had to do the same for Lyle and Mrs. Bennet already as well. And even then, there's Claire's room in the house, and her friends would be calling the house looking for her, not to mention the school, and anyone else that the Bennets know in town, their extended family... I don't see Bennet leaving such a potential mess behind.

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, wiping all his memories of the last 17 years might be cleaner -- it's easier to explain away total amnesia (to yourself and to your family & friends) than selective amnesia, especially about your own daughter.

I really didn't want to like Claire, she's such an apparent cliche. But you can't help falling in love with her a little. She's such a valiant character.

You know, I was sort of resistant to her as well in the beginning ("oh, superstrong kickass blonde cheerleader, yawn"), but it didn't take long for her to win me over. I think Hayden Panettiere has done an amazing job with the character, making her both tough and vulnerable, and showing how much she's grown up since acquiring her powers.

Man, the bit that got me was when Mrs. Bennet saw that Claire was alive, and she said, "Thank god. I prayed so hard." I have no idea why that clobbered me, but man. She is so amazing in what could have been a joke role.

Dana, I agree. She's really impressed me in the last several episodes; her character has so much more depth than I expected from how she came across in the first few episodes. I just figured at first that she was a bit of an airhead, sort of vapid -- which gives me chills, now that we know why she's been so scatterbrained -- but I've been really moved by how much she obviously loves Claire and how brave she is when she thinks Claire's in danger. It makes me wish that Bennet had been able to trust her with his secret (and Claire's); I think she could have been a strong ally, if the option hadn't been taken from her.

Also, I am reminded that nobody has yet mentioned the funniest shot of the whole episode, which was the closeup on Mr. Muggles' face as Ted was burninatin' the house, and then the cut to the picture of Mr. Muggles burning up inside.


Polter-Cow - Feb 27, 2007 9:30:40 am PST #7339 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, wiping all his memories of the last 17 years might be cleaner -- it's easier to explain away total amnesia (to yourself and to your family & friends) than selective amnesia, especially about your own daughter.

This was my initial reaction, and it is cleaner than the Claire-shaped hole, which was my second guess. And there's a line in the promo that MAY support that idea. I feel like it's the most hardcore option, and the scene felt REALLY hardcore.

"Go deep."


Vortex - Feb 27, 2007 9:39:31 am PST #7340 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, wiping all his memories of the last 17 years might be cleaner -- it's easier to explain away total amnesia (to yourself and to your family & friends) than selective amnesia, especially about your own daughter.

I think that they're just going to wipe memories of the escape. The Organization (do we have a name yet?) knows about the Haitian, so they won't question it. The family knows about the Haitian, so that's fine, and the neighbors can be told that she's in a special hospital for the burns. they've shown that the haitian can be selective about memories, so if he takes everything from the time that HRG left Primatech, and leaves him waking up shot on the bridge, he should be okay.


DebetEsse - Feb 27, 2007 9:57:41 am PST #7341 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

But, see, when we stopped he hadn't actually been wiped yet, and I think it may actually be interrupted before it happens.

I don't know where it would be practical to wipe from, given what the people around him know. And, did they re-wipe the family?


victor infante - Feb 27, 2007 10:01:36 am PST #7342 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I don't know where it would be practical to wipe from, given what the people around him know. And, did they re-wipe the family?

I doubt HRG would allow Mrs. Bennett to be wiped again, given her condition, so I figure that The Haitian will wipe information that's immediately useful ... like their plans, maybe thing associated with where they're eplanning on going, etc., and leave it at that.

And then I think HRG and his new psychic friend Matt are going to go back to playing both sides against the middle.


DCJensen - Feb 27, 2007 10:03:11 am PST #7343 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

But, see, when we stopped he hadn't actually been wiped yet, and I think it may actually be interrupted before it happens.

I'd like to see Claude's hand materialize around The Haitian's and Claude saying, "No."

t Who moment

Or maybe "Just this once, everybody lives!"

t /Who moment


Kate P. - Feb 27, 2007 10:07:49 am PST #7344 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, wiping all his memories of the last 17 years might be cleaner -- it's easier to explain away total amnesia (to yourself and to your family & friends) than selective amnesia, especially about your own daughter.

This was my initial reaction, and it is cleaner than the Claire-shaped hole, which was my second guess. And there's a line in the promo that MAY support that idea. I feel like it's the most hardcore option, and the scene felt REALLY hardcore.

P-C, I felt the same way about that scene. Although, I'll admit that "saving the person you love, at the cost of never being able to see them again" is my #1 bulletproof narrative kink, so I might have been looking for it where it wasn't intended.


DebetEsse - Feb 27, 2007 10:08:27 am PST #7345 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Hee

T'would be awesome.

But I think everyone making it out of that house alive was our "everybody lives" moment.