You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Feb 13, 2007 11:09:27 am PST #6621 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So, this SPN is going to be very entertaining, eh? He says after reading Dana and Plei's whitefont but not watching the Director's Cut because he doesn't do that sort of thing.


Typo Boy - Feb 13, 2007 11:09:46 am PST #6622 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well, he did imagine that he could have a real relationship with an Internet stripper.

Taking off from this - I hate to say this but Ando and Hiro acted totally in charcter.

Ando gave every sign of having about a 13 year old sexuality. Not only did he imagine he could have a real relationship with an internet stripper. His first reaction when Hiro claim powers was to challenge him to teleport into the girls restroom or dressing room or whatever it was. When he meets Hiro's hot sister, when she give Hiro a goodbye hug, he tries to sneak one too . Ando may have common sense in other area, but he always has show signs of being one of those guys who, when the penis rises, it drains all the blood from his brain. He did not respond to this latest girl as a Galahad. He responded because he saw a girl in what looked like a showgirl costume crying. Ando is smart enough otherwise, but too much of him thinks porn movies are documentatries.

Hiro has a more subtle weakness. He is smart enough in a lot of ways. He even has social skills. He can read people. But is utterly lacking in guile. He has zero discretion; he tends to say more than should, reveal more than he should. Because he also has charm, this had fewer consequences for him than you might expect. But against a really bad person, the indiscretion costs him, and the charm buys him nothing.

Both Hiro and Ando have growing to do. Until they mature, they need to team with people whose weaknesses differ from theirs.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 13, 2007 11:12:23 am PST #6623 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Both Hiro and Ando have growing to do. Until they mature, they need to team with people whose weaknesses differ from theirs.

If Ando survives his current dillema, he's gonna be toast if Jessica ever needs him to get to Hiro.

Actually, there's a lot of potential with those two stories colliding because Hiro and Ando have already collided with DL and Micah too (or is that a completely monkey crack addled scene I'm forgetting - didn't they meet at a car accident in the desert?).


sumi - Feb 13, 2007 11:14:06 am PST #6624 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

But is utterly lacking in guild

Guild?

Confused.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 13, 2007 11:14:50 am PST #6625 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Confused.

I suspect Typo Boy lived up to his name and meant to say "guile".


§ ita § - Feb 13, 2007 11:27:30 am PST #6626 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I see Ando as older than y'all do. Certainly old enough not to ditch his best friend because a girl kissed him. Infatuation, perhaps, fuelled by a Niki similarity (I guess me finding Hope hideous doesn't help), but not ditching Hiro (I'm not counting locking him out of the room as ditching, because he's theoretically nearby). Just...not. And not believing Hiro would ditch him.


Jon B. - Feb 13, 2007 11:31:32 am PST #6627 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

didn\'t they meet at a car accident in the desert?

Yes, the accident that\'s been in the pre-teaser almost every week.


Typo Boy - Feb 13, 2007 11:40:37 am PST #6628 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I see Ando as older than y'all do. Certainly old enough not to ditch his best friend because a girl kissed him. Infatuation, perhaps, fuelled by a Niki similarity (I guess me finding Hope hideous doesn't help), but not ditching Hiro (I'm not counting locking him out of the room as ditching, because he's theoretically nearby). Just...not. And not believing Hiro would ditch him.

A guy of any age can have the sexuality of a 13 year old. (Note: not the same as having an inner 13 year old. This is someone ruled by an inner 13 year old.) Ando is old enough to have grown out of it. But he didn't.

t On Edit

And edited "guild' to guile in post above.


shrift - Feb 13, 2007 11:46:50 am PST #6629 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Dana hasn't drunk the Kool-Ade yet. Shrift's falling down on the job, I suspect.

Hey, I can't win 'em all. Although if I wanted to try and hook her this weekend while she's trapped in my apartment, what episodes should I hypothetically show her?


Dana - Feb 13, 2007 11:47:50 am PST #6630 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Saw that coming.