Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!

Xander ,'Chosen'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Consuela - Feb 02, 2007 3:06:54 pm PST #6134 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

that made it clear that it had the sort of lame treatment of minority and female characters that would drive me nuts, so I still wasn't interested.

I think it's getting a little better with regards to the women characters (this episode notwithstanding--why, exactly, did Gloria have to be wearing a bustier to hang around her slovenly apartment in Providence in January?), but the jury is still somewhat out on how they're handling minority characters.

I want better handling of those issues, but really I'm all about the family dynamic on the show. Happily, it's not a crap show, and the new commitment to consequences is a trend I hope they will continue to follow.

It's a bit embarrassing, though--I haven't been this emotionally invested in a show since the glory days of Farscape, which I had no qualms about saying was excellent tv. I have to say that I still find SPN to be very fun and entertaining tv, but not yet excellent.


Ailleann - Feb 02, 2007 3:11:15 pm PST #6135 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Breaking SPN news....

I just determined that Eric Kripke is a cousin of my friend's husband. He's also from Toledo, and now I'm starting to wonder if Sam's GF's name is a shoutout....

Sadly, this news doesn't put me anywhere closer to having a Winchester.


P.M. Marc - Feb 02, 2007 3:11:43 pm PST #6136 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think it's getting a little better with regards to the women characters (this episode notwithstanding--why, exactly, did Gloria have to be wearing a bustier to hang around her slovenly apartment in Providence in January?), but the jury is still somewhat out on how they're handling minority characters.

And they are making an effort. Stumbling along at times, but making an effort, which is more than I can say for a lot of genre TV.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2007 3:12:05 pm PST #6137 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

this episode notwithstanding--why, exactly, did Gloria have to be wearing a bustier to hang around her slovenly apartment in Providence in January?

She's a hoor.

As for the minority characters--my main opinion is that there aren't enough of them. The ones that have appeared were handled fine in my eyes.


Atropa - Feb 02, 2007 3:14:41 pm PST #6138 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I think it's getting a little better with regards to the women characters

That's good to hear, because that is one of the things that has been bugging me while going through S1. Also, why are almost all of the female characters blonde? It seems like if there's a brunette, it's pretty likely she's monster bait and will die within two scenes.


Consuela - Feb 02, 2007 3:14:46 pm PST #6139 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

The ones that have appeared were handled fine in my eyes.

So far as I could tell, yeah. It's just been a very white world so far.


Consuela - Feb 02, 2007 3:16:49 pm PST #6140 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

It seems like if there's a brunette, it's pretty likely she's monster bait and will die within two scenes.

Huh. What I got from S1 was that the brunettes were actually cooler and less victimy. Hailey from "Wendigo", Sarah Blake from "Provenance" and ... one of the girls in "Bloody Mary"--all brunettes, all a little snappier and more memorable than the run of identical starlet-type blondes with long hair.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2007 3:16:59 pm PST #6141 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It seems like if there's a brunette, it's pretty likely she's monster bait and will die within two scenes.

It's because she doesn't taste of the bleach.


P.M. Marc - Feb 02, 2007 3:24:19 pm PST #6142 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

That's good to hear, because that is one of the things that has been bugging me while going through S1. Also, why are almost all of the female characters blonde? It seems like if there's a brunette, it's pretty likely she's monster bait and will die within two scenes.

We need a blonde-to-brunette meter!

Mary, Jess, Layla: blonde and doomed.

Hailey, Andrea, Sarah: brunette and not doomed.


P.M. Marc - Feb 02, 2007 3:27:08 pm PST #6143 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Oh, and Cassie, brunette and not doomed.

More seriously, the show does a lot with visuals, and the recurring doomed blonde theme seems to be a conscious echo of Mary's death and the start of this whole thing.

The S2 recurring female characters thus far have been an even split between blonde and brunette. If we get to see Ava again, brunettes pull ahead.