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The LIP WIBBLE! When he calls John's cell in "Home"! How can you not flail??? Are you made of human parts???
This. GAH.
Ahem.
But I suspect that SPN doesn't have interest in the weird for its own sake so much as an interest in things that need killin'.
This.
Sam + prayer and Dean not knowing doesn't bug me at all, oddly. 1) Sammy's the type to pray on the inside, taking a few minutes that look like quiet contemplation to talk to his god. 2) It's not like the Winchesters are known for their sharing-and-caring moments. The belief in a higher power seems like one of those moments for the boys. Also,
I can see how Dean was old enough to be angry, to question, and to be as practical as John would be about it, whereas nobody told Sammy they were only there for the gossip and the holy water.
this.
And we know that there are hunters who are religious men. Okay, so far, we've only met one -- but it makes sense that there might be others.
The LIP WIBBLE! When he calls John's cell in "Home"! How can you not flail???
you know what one of my favorite JA FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACES is? when he's threatening Meg in Devil's Trap. that barely restrained rage. woo boy!!
I don't watch the show (I know, I know, I just want to start from Season 1 and i'm mad at Netflix right now), but I would think that seeing that much evil all of the time would make me pray. Not religious, necessarily, but believe in a higher power of good.
you know what one of my favorite JA FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACES is? when he's threatening Meg in Devil's Trap. that barely restrained rage. woo boy!!
Dead Man's Blood, where he comes crashing through the scrub to save his dad and his brother.
I re-watched half of Salvation last night, because I was missing John something fierce.
you know what one of my favorite JA FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACES is? when he's threatening Meg in Devil's Trap. that barely restrained rage. woo boy!!
Oh, when that muscle by his nose quivers and he's practically snarling, that one?
Yeah.
Favorite JP faces -
1) "Oh, I did."
2) when Andy's mojo's not working on him.
I purse my lips less at Sam's disillusionment (I have no issues with him having a secretly prayerful life) than at Dean's revelation. Execution? God's will? That's not the live priest's God.
That having been said, that's Dean's sort of God--as violent and visceral as the evil he fights. And Sam feeling that
this
not being an angel meant that there was no God, and that his salvation was only Dean? Also totally in character.
Just ftr, I was born in 1979, and my 'rents were married in 1968. Mom was 30 when she had me, the second child. So, it's not common, but I don't think it's completely unpossible.
1974 and mine were married in their early 20s in 1958, and my little brother was born in 1976 (my sister was born in '60). So, no, not unpossible. Just improbable enough that it raised my brow.
I can see how Dean was old enough to be angry, to question, and to be as practical as John would be about it, whereas nobody told Sammy they were only there for the gossip and the holy water.
Hee. And, yeah.
Sam + prayer and Dean not knowing doesn't bug me at all, oddly. 1) Sammy's the type to pray on the inside, taking a few minutes that look like quiet contemplation to talk to his god. 2) It's not like the Winchesters are known for their sharing-and-caring moments
Also, I suspect both Dean and John (I mean, look at Dean in Faith, for cryin' out loud) probably gave off enough Nonbeliever Vibes that Sam kept that little part of his personality to himself. Not that I'm having Sam Identification Issues here. Oh no.
Capping Nightshifter really showed me just how damn mobile JA's face is. The frame by frame emotional reactions are nice to watch.
My current fav is the Staring Rapt at Screen face from that episode. With the slightly open mouth and the almost-innocent expression?
I haven't chosen a fav JP face. I should.
And maybe it's because I wasn't paying attention to the canon in the first season, but has there been *any* hints that any of the boys were religious?
I'm going to have to rewatch Faith, but I think that, as far as possible retcons go, it's one that blends pretty smoothly with what we saw of Sam there.
That having been said, that's Dean's sort of God--as violent and visceral as the evil he fights.
Yeah. This.
That having been said, that's Dean's sort of God--as violent and visceral as the evil he fights. And Sam feeling that this not being an angel meant that there was no God, and that his salvation was only Dean? Also totally in character.
I think this is what saved this episode for me. This, I believed.
Oh, yeah. Dean's God is pretty old-testament, or even earlier. Not so much with the loving and forgiving, and a fair amount of laying down the law. (For "God", read "Dad"...)
I still think it's a bit of a stretch for Dean to assume it was God's will that the predator get killed in a fluke accident precipitated by Dean, but... ::handwaves::
