It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Topic!Cindy - Jan 29, 2007 4:10:56 am PST #5853 of 10001
What is even happening?

Does Gaeta actually have a secret, or is it just that he wants to kill Baltar?

The episode had me on the edge of my seat, but when I think about it too much, I'm mostly disappointed.

I don't buy what Lee said to Dee about marrying her because he's in love with her. That seems to fly in the face of what they were showing us in flashbacks, just a couple of episodes ago. And I could understand if it is just that Lee was lying, but he seemed to believe it himself, when he told Dee. Confusing.

Lee's feelings and actions are the weak link, for me, in this double triangle. I buy Starbuck's feelings and actions. I buy Anders' feelings and actions. I buy Dee's feeling and actions. I don't get Lee. Two episodes ago, he was telling Kara they ought to divorce their spouses, so they could be together. She comes to him last night and asks if he'll do it, and he reminds her of her night with him on New Caprica, and that she married Anders the next morning. Okay, that's valid, except he knew that two episodes ago, too. Gah.

The romantic melodrama is still in place, Baltar's still in custody not knowing whether or not he's a Cylon [...]

When I watched, I felt like this episode was supposed to cap the romantic melodrama, and that we were supposed to accept Baltar's humanity, but when I think about it, you're right. Nothing changed.

The title, Taking a Break from all Your Worries, earwormed me with the Cheers theme song, pretty badly. I had the earworm for the whole time, and didn't even realize I'd seen the title on my TiVo, before I watched the episode. When I saw the title afterwards, it cracked me up, because there was a bar, and...okay, maybe I'm just tired and stir-crazy.


Jessica - Jan 29, 2007 4:54:05 am PST #5854 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So what happened in this BSG?

NOTHING. Feh.

I hope either Dee or Gaeta is the SooperSeekritCylon. They've been through so much shit over the past year, they deserve some superpowers.

I am SO over Lee/Dee. I liked Dualla when she was a minor character in HER OWN STORYLINE. I do not like her as a minor character in SOMEONE ELSE'S STORYLINE. And Lee...Lee is just kind of pathetic. Which makes me sad.

I really did not like the convenience of "Oh yeah, that military experiment that of course was run on Galactica like everything else that ever happened to the military in the entire history of the Colonies? Sure we're got some drugs left over!" Normally when they do something that blatant, they manage to hide it better by not talking about it so much.

And the way the drugs were described...putting the victim in such a heightened state of anxiety that he'll confess everything because he thinks his life is at stake? How exactly would that differ from Baltar's baseline? I mean, if they wanted this to be the funny torture episode, I would have laughed if the drugs had no effect.

Sending Baltar to Lee's Lake of Perpetual Near-Deathiness was just lame.

I liked the final scene between Baltar and Gaeta, and some of the Kara/Anders stuff, but overall, this ep just didn't do it for me.


-t - Jan 29, 2007 5:03:21 am PST #5855 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Laur and Adama know about the Final 5 and their possible connection to the Temple of the 5. If that makes any difference to anything I don't know.

I'm curious about why Gaeta tried to kill Balatr only after teh whispering, unless he was just biding his time up til then and meant to kill him as soon as he got a chance. I had hoped that being inside Baltar's head would be more interesting. He seems to be convinced he's not a Cylon, for whatever that's worth.

Eta: the romantic entanglements moved backwards if anything. Boring. Calli and the Chief fighting was far more intriguing, I'd've rather seen that.

So...they've got plenty of food and booze now, I guess?


sumi - Jan 29, 2007 5:05:15 am PST #5856 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

You know -- there is also that thing they said about the final five and the one that they do not name. Or was Roslin talking about the gods that are venerated in the Temple of the Five? Is the one that they do not name the god of the Cylons?


-t - Jan 29, 2007 5:07:09 am PST #5857 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Is the one that they do not name the god of the Cylons?

I think Roslin is starting to think so, and she may be right, but that's not been the belief thus far.


sumi - Jan 29, 2007 5:52:07 am PST #5858 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Heroes - tv guide has an interview with this week's exciting guest star here. If you do not want to be spoiled about WHO it is do not go there. There is also some info on the character that the guest star plays.

Fun quote:

TV Guide: So did you and Masi dish on the set in Japanese?
Takei: Better! He and I both speak Spanish, so we were chatting with each other en espaƱol. It was blowing minds! I am also really impressed with James Kyson Lee, who plays Ando (see related TVGuide.com Q&A). Do you know that he is from South Korea and does not understand nor speak Japanese? I was dumbfounded. He has a fantastic ear. It's one thing to mimic a foreign language, but it's quite another to be able to act in it. Amazing.


sumi - Jan 29, 2007 6:27:45 am PST #5859 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

BSG question: was that bar on the Galactica? In the Hanger Bay where the civilian refugee camp is set up?

And here is something that's been bugging me for a while: Why is the Algae planet a desert? Shouldn't it have been more hot and watery?


Jessica - Jan 29, 2007 6:35:02 am PST #5860 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I also want to know what the bar would be serving at this point, given that they should have run out of things to ferment about the same time they ran out of food...


Hayden - Jan 29, 2007 6:50:01 am PST #5861 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

BSG: Yeah, there was a lot that didn't add up, but I liked the way they shifted perspective back to Baltar and somehow made him an interesting character again without really changing things. I also liked the online scene, which could have easily replaced any of that boring Lee Adama's tortured relationship shit and made the show better. I really like that I am suddenly convinced that fucking Baltar of all people is the real hero of the show at this point and that I seem to have more or less sided with him and Caprica against both Galactica and the Cylons. I also like that Roslin's authoritarian streak has brought me around to the point that I cringe whenever she's on-screen, because she used to be my favorite character on the show but now she's turned into Dick Cheney. And I love where I think (unspoiled) that they're headed: humanity as we know it as Cylon hybrids. Because I think the humans on the show have an alien streak they haven't shown us yet, something that's evolved into what we think of as humanity by cross-breeding with Cylons. They look like us, but they are not us.


Polter-Cow - Jan 29, 2007 6:53:04 am PST #5862 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I liked the way they shifted perspective back to Baltar and somehow made him an interesting character again without really changing things.

I agree, Corwood. I thought to myself that it's amazing that Baltar remains awesome no matter how many times they tread over the very same ground.

The same cannot be said for the Quadrangle of Bore.