I mean, let's say you did kill us. Or didn't. There could be torture. Whatever. But somehow you found the goods. What would your cut be?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Dec 13, 2006 10:34:12 pm PST #4540 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Dekker's management de-gayed Zach.

Now Tim Kring's statement makes a lot more sense:

However, it has simply become too complicated behind the scenes to push this issue further with this particular character.

Still really annoying that it happened, but at least we know whose fault it is now.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 14, 2006 3:46:38 am PST #4541 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

OK, so any bets on how much bigger the Heroes audience (who apparently actually liked gay Zach) is than the audience this Sarah Connor show may pull in if it actually gets picked up by the network?

Dekker should be looking around for new management.


sumi - Dec 14, 2006 4:19:42 am PST #4542 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, what Matt said.

It really was so out of the blue -- I mean with an audience the size of the audience for Heroes you'd think if people were upset about Zach being gay we would have heard something. And did the actor change management recently? Because my understanding is that he's played unambiguously gay characters before.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 14, 2006 4:28:56 am PST #4543 of 10001
What is even happening?

I agree with Matt, too, unless Dekker's role was always supposed to be limited. I just can't figure out how management of a not-exactly-a-superstar has so much say-so. As to why they'd intervene, maybe they wanted to avoid a type-casting thing? Somewhere (probably on that after elton blog) I read that element of the part wasn't presented to him when he signed. It still seems silly in this day and age.

eta...

It's kind of amusing, considering Jack Coleman's (Mr. Bennett) role as Steven Carrington on Dynasty.


Dana - Dec 14, 2006 5:27:17 am PST #4544 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

What happened to The Lost Room? I was enjoying it so much, and then the last fifteen minutes happened.

And yes, that was Tim Guinee, formerly of Strange World.


sumi - Dec 14, 2006 5:53:08 am PST #4545 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

You didn't like the way it ended?

I liked it because he got his daughter back but there were still so many loose ends that you could easily have a series - you know?


Dana - Dec 14, 2006 5:54:39 am PST #4546 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I thought they raised several questions that they then completely failed to answer. Or even acknowledge that they had raised them in the first place.


machall - Dec 14, 2006 7:36:58 am PST #4547 of 10001
"Would you mind not farting while I'm saving the world?" - Doctor Who

What happened to The Lost Room? I was enjoying it so much, and then the last fifteen minutes happened.

I know what you mean. It kind of reminded me of every Stephen King mini-series that has ever been televised (The Stand, It, etc.).

There is a whole lot of setup there for a series but, as someone else pointed out, it could degenerate into an "object of the week" debacle. Still, it's not a bad way for SciFi to gauge viewer interest before commissioning a series. Maybe it will keep them from messing with story continuity like they did with Eureka.


Kathy A - Dec 14, 2006 7:42:48 am PST #4548 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The problem with The Stand was that it had Molly Ringwald in it. (Still resentful over that casting choice.) Although the weakass ending with the ghostly image of Mother Abigail looking at the baby was really bad compared with the more bleak epilogue in the book.


Polter-Cow - Dec 14, 2006 8:38:50 am PST #4549 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I really liked the ending of The Lost Room. I was disappointed they didn't explain what The Event was, but I liked all that happened with the Occupant. That was hardcore. I would definitely watch a series.

But, le sigh, it looks like the ratings weren't great. Which is odd. It looked cool, come on!