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'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Liese S. - Dec 06, 2006 2:31:47 pm PST #4300 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Ha. That is confusing. Is the Haitian's power always on, or is it directed?

Hiro! With a sword! Fights a dinosaur!

Maybe it's a metaphorical dinosaur. Where do you suppose that sword is?


esse - Dec 06, 2006 2:34:24 pm PST #4301 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

so that Haitian no longer has that power, in which case Peter can't have it either, except he had it and... what? Or maybe they mutually mind-wipe each other and both of them become drooling idiots.

Why would the Haitain no longer have his power? In none of the scenarios we've seen so far has Peter's reflection of other heroes' powers affected the original heroes' powers. Realistically, the Haitian wouldn't even know Peter had such a power, let alone the Haitain's own (albeit temporarily) unless it was explained or shown to him that that is what Peter's power is. And I suspect that the mind wipe requires some kind of concentrated effort, like Hiro and teleporting/jumping around in time.


Theodosia - Dec 06, 2006 2:34:50 pm PST #4302 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Maybe Hiro ends up fighting Lostzilla.

Well... it COULD happen.


Vonnie K - Dec 06, 2006 3:12:09 pm PST #4303 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Why would the Haitain no longer have his power?

Well, Haitian clearly has good control over his powers -- he can dampen the power of the person he chooses and not others (like he did with Sylar and Eden.) However, Peter has little mastery of the power he takes on -- he started reading mind soon after he met Matt even though he wasn't trying. So it's likely that if Peter meets the Haitian, he may adopt the Haitian's ability to suppress other's power without even trying. Which means Peter would use the suppressive power against *the Haitian himself*. But if the Haitian has his own power aimed at himself through Peter, and is effectively neutralized (for the time being anyway), then Peter would no longer have access to the suppressive ability to siphon off... and I have no idea what would happen after that.


Daisy Jane - Dec 06, 2006 3:30:16 pm PST #4304 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

In none of the scenarios we've seen so far has Peter's reflection of other heroes' powers affected the original heroes' powers.

'Cept when Matt was trying to mind read him. Feedback loop. As Vonnie said.


Liese S. - Dec 06, 2006 3:38:36 pm PST #4305 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Maybe Hiro ends up fighting Lostzilla.

Ha!


Vonnie K - Dec 06, 2006 3:44:26 pm PST #4306 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Feedback loop.

Ayup.

then Peter would no longer have access to the suppressive ability to siphon off... and I have no idea what would happen after that.

Actually, I do. Peter would no longer have the ability to suppress Haitian's suppressive ability, and Haitian would have his power back, and Peter takes on the power, and the loop starts all over again.


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2006 3:48:33 pm PST #4307 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

'Cept when Matt was trying to mind read him. Feedback loop. As Vonnie said.

Well, it didn't affect Matt's power as such. He just wasn't used to looking into a mirror facing a mirror. It affected him.

If the semantics scan.


Juliebird - Dec 06, 2006 3:49:58 pm PST #4308 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'll throw it in the mix that Peter taking on and then blocking the Haitian's power wouldn't stop the power from existing in the Haitian, they'd just block each other and have to duke it out with fists, if that's what they wanted to, you know, do :D


Kate P. - Dec 06, 2006 4:07:48 pm PST #4309 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Something just occurred to me re: Peter's dream: he didn't have the scar in the dream, did he? So either (a) his dream-self is a stand-in for Actual Radioactive Dude, or (b) it's really Peter, but he doesn't die, because he has to stick around long enough to acquire some distinctive scarring (though this might be the event that does it). Right?

I also don't know how literally we're meant to take Peter's dreams. He dreamed about Nathan and Heidi's accident, though we don't know if what we saw was his dream or the real thing (and thus, we don't know how closely his dream of the event mirrored reality); and he dreamed about having a conversation with Simone's dad, shortly before he passed away -- a conversation that never actually happened. Have we seen him have any other empathic/prophetic dreams?