Mom! Dead people are talking to you. Do the math!

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Dana - Nov 16, 2006 11:13:28 am PST #3728 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I find it hard to believe they'd air BSG in such an early timeslot, considering the warnings they often have for content.


Strega - Nov 16, 2006 12:56:25 pm PST #3729 of 10001

Not judging from his defensiveness in the comments, no.

Since it's been FARKed, I'm looking at a cache, but... given the tone of the comments, I think he's being pretty restrained.

As usual, my bias is that a lot of the comments sound like the responses I got to my recaps. And since he never said "if you are not tired of these things, you're an idiot and I hate you," the fact that people take it that way is very much their problem.

You'd think he's the first person to nitpick SF.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2006 1:47:24 pm PST #3730 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He's being quite restrained but that's not it. He also seems to be sincere.


Polter-Cow - Nov 16, 2006 2:03:13 pm PST #3731 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, I'm with ita. He's very sincere. He truly believes these sci-fi clichés should not be seen again! Ever!


Strega - Nov 16, 2006 2:40:18 pm PST #3732 of 10001

Well, I think he sincerely thought, "What are some SF cliches I am tired of?" And then wrote a piece making fun of them.

I don't know, to me it seems equivalent to taking a piece in Fametracker as some kind of authoritative statement when the point is really to amuse.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2006 2:41:57 pm PST #3733 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

then wrote a piece making fun of them.

But..but..it's not funny! Maybe that dryness is his hook, but I can't distinguish it from a piece written in all seriousness about the clichés that irritate him. How can you tell?


Typo Boy - Nov 16, 2006 3:03:49 pm PST #3734 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The indicators are certainly mixed as to whether HRG's organization is good or evil.

Umm Bad!Dad killed Claire's parents, then adapted her, cause a cute little blond baby being orphaned right when he and his wife found out they could not have kids was a message from God.

That is like the freakin Chilean death squads man. They may not know they are evil, but they are evil. Yeah they are human, not bwah-ha-haing mixed motives, not all bad, genuine love of Claire. That is what evil looks like.

I mean (to paraphrase) 'sometimes people resist when we kidnap them, and we have to kill them. Shame about those tragic accidents'. That is pretty evil.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2006 3:05:28 pm PST #3735 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does anyone have his exact words?


Juliebird - Nov 16, 2006 3:14:22 pm PST #3736 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I think Claire's dad meant/implied --at the least, what I got out of it was that sometimes the people they're kidnapping freak out, get defensive, and bad shit happens from there, and maybe it's because OWI has better kung fu than the green supernaturals that they come out on top, and the greenies end up dead.

But still, it's not benevolent in the least to go around kidnapping people for some vague catch-and-release objective, and then once in a while, to add to the violation of it, whoops, there was a scuffle and they (the already confused supernaturals who then get to be labrats for a brief while) end up dead. Darn.

I do like the analogy that Daddy and OWI are like spies with some noble mission who are not above using unsavory tactics or using people and putting them in harms way to gain their objective. Supposed to be the "good guys", but not someone you'd like to be friends with.


Zenkitty - Nov 16, 2006 3:18:11 pm PST #3737 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

So maybe Glasses-Guy = the Operative. Huh.