No. You're missing the point. The design of the thing is functional. The plan is not to shoot you. The plan is to get the girl. If there's no girl, then the plan, well, is like the room.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

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§ ita § - Nov 16, 2006 9:34:18 am PST #3710 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You get episodes like Cor-ai, where the locals are all "we run away when they come!"

Which wasn't working too well, was it? Weren't they left with some other method to protect themselves at episode's end?

SG1 is worse than Joss and Buffy's powers, about having the reach of any technology/alien/etc do more than serve the narrative.

Just as strong/whatever as need be.

Which, I must say, is more irritating in principle than most of what that guy listed. He's all about external rules. I get miffed when internal ones get frelled.

Which is to say--if the writers want the Go'auld to get you, they don't have to mess with canon much to get it done. Perhaps we just never see stories of those missions, because they're not interesting, because there's so much less conflict.

eta: Speaking of SG1--the replicators, right? But they were also bent on destroying their templates, not living among them.


Katie M - Nov 16, 2006 9:39:31 am PST #3711 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

eta: Speaking of SG1--the replicators, right? But they were also bent on destroying their templates, not living among them.

The Atlantis versions are all into becoming the Ancients, though.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2006 9:40:20 am PST #3712 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The SGA replicators confuse the fuck out of me, and I try not to think about them too much.


Jessica - Nov 16, 2006 9:41:51 am PST #3713 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He's all about external rules. I get miffed when internal ones get frelled.

Absolutely. Good writing and internal consistency can overcome almost any annoying cliche. (Which Firefox keeps wanting to correct to cloche.)


Dana - Nov 16, 2006 9:42:19 am PST #3714 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I totally buy that replicators created by the Ancients would think that becoming an Ancient is the best thing ever. I mean, these are the Ancients we're talking about.


Katie M - Nov 16, 2006 9:51:49 am PST #3715 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I totally buy that replicators created by the Ancients would think that becoming an Ancient is the best thing ever. I mean, these are the Ancients we're talking about.

Hee. Yeah, okay, good point.


DXMachina - Nov 16, 2006 9:55:03 am PST #3716 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I've always kind of thought they should be moving away from it, all "huh, you know, this thing never brings us anything but trouble. Let's try living a couple days' walk away!"

For me it's that they should be moving away because of simple population pressure. Humans breed like rabbits.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 16, 2006 10:01:07 am PST #3717 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I totally buy that replicators created by the Ancients would think that becoming an Ancient is the best thing ever. I mean, these are the Ancients we're talking about.

I can only buy it if they never actually met any Ancients before settling on that ambition. People might as well have flashing neon "HUBRIS" signs as headgear.


Dana - Nov 16, 2006 10:04:06 am PST #3718 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah, that's my point. Not that the Ancients are super-cool, but that the Ancients themselves think they're super-cool. Of course any artificial life they created would have that same belief.


Strega - Nov 16, 2006 10:41:56 am PST #3719 of 10001

...Y'all don't think the whole thing might be a little tongue in cheek?

On a side note, if an alien can reproduce human speech, is mentally capable of doing so, and bothers to learn English, it’s going to speak in Received Pronunciation, aka the King’s English. Why would an alien learn a provincial dialect like American English? They’d speak it correctly. All aliens should sound like Hugh Grant.