Wesley: And how does your kind define love? Demon: Same as all bodies. Same as everywheres. Love is sacrifice.

'The Girl in Question'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Fiona - Nov 07, 2006 10:32:33 pm PST #3489 of 10001

So... Torchwood ep 4. Did anyone see it? I just watched it last night.

It was one of those kinds of episodes which I quite enjoyed as I was watching, but which wasn't so great in retrospect, mainly because of the GAPING PLOT HOLES. But I like Ianto, and am glad he got a little more screen time than usual .


Polter-Cow - Nov 07, 2006 11:11:21 pm PST #3490 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So... Torchwood ep 4. Did anyone see it?

I saw it, but the show still isn't doing it for me.


esse - Nov 08, 2006 2:25:45 am PST #3491 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Fiona--I thought 104 was particularly impressive in taking what everyone assumed would be a quiet secondary character and really packing a dramatic and emotional punch. I liked how they tied directly in with DW series two, like they automatically expected you to know the true tradgedy of the Cybermen. The huge gaping plot holes aside, I quite like Ianto and his super-dramatic storyline, and it was nice to take the focus off of Gwen, and Gwen+Jack, for awhile.

But I still think the completely random mid-episode snogging was ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous.


WindSparrow - Nov 08, 2006 4:13:07 am PST #3492 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I have to agree with SA on this one. I didn't care for the ep. as much as some of the previous.


Dana - Nov 08, 2006 5:10:15 am PST #3493 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Torchwood 104:

If I closed my metaphorical eyes, I enjoyed it, but this thing where Gwen freezes in the face of danger is getting really tedious.


WindSparrow - Nov 08, 2006 8:47:30 am PST #3494 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

If I closed my metaphorical eyes, I enjoyed it, but this thing where Gwen freezes in the face of danger is getting really tedious.

I have to agree with you, Dana. There was a time when I thought that they were pushing the Jack/Gwen thing because Gwen reminded him of Rose. But her clearly panicking at crunch time is not the quality that might bring out that response. Rose did not always know what to do, but she was able to think on her feet and contribute in important ways IN the thick of things. It was easy to view Rose as a naif but she had her eyes open. Gwen seems to have set up camp in her naivete like she is planning to retire in it. Or I could be talking through my hat.


sumi - Nov 08, 2006 10:12:33 am PST #3495 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Sarah Connor Chronicles?


Kate P. - Nov 08, 2006 1:54:47 pm PST #3496 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Torchwood 1.04:

Man, I really go back and forth on Gwen. I want to like her so much, and at times I really do. She impressed me a lot in the first episode, and I quite liked her in the second as well; but I agree that she seems to be getting progressively more useless. I said, after last week's episode, that I was going to enjoy watching Torchwood toughen her up, but I do wish they'd hurry it up a bit.

I was also less than thrilled with the creepy, creepy objectification of Lisa's body in its Cyberwoman cage. The doctor groping her breasts and rubbing her stomach? A world of EW.

That said, I continue to love this show beyond any logical explanation. I can recognize that the stuff I mentioned above is problematic, and yet, I can completely ignore it in favor of the stuff I love: Captain Jack's kiss of life! The pterodactyl-vs.-Cyberwoman fight! Barbeque sauce! And dude, Captain Jack has become some kind of monster, hasn't he? I can't wait to find out how he got to such a dark place. Though I do hope we'll see some more glimpses of the old Jack at some point this season.


JenP - Nov 08, 2006 2:14:41 pm PST #3497 of 10001

OK, I'm going to watch it right now, so I can read the whitefont. And possibly comment.


Vonnie K - Nov 08, 2006 2:16:35 pm PST #3498 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I kind of hated the latest Torchwood, due to the kind of the stuff Kate mentioned above. Plus, I really couldn't give a crap about Ianto and his idiotic, morally reprehensible mainpain. Maybe if we had learned to know and love Ianto for a while, I'd have bought it. But at the end of it, I kind of wished the Pterodactyl did off with the lot of them.

Jack is pretty, and the boy-kissing was hot if gratuitous. I am theoretically interested in how Jack got to be where he is now, but I don't think Barrowman has the acting chops or the gravitas to pull of the broody and tormented.