Hee, McStreamy the new nickname for Leoban.

I totally got a Mom & Dad with the kids in the backseat vibe from the scene of everyone driving back to the Road House that's just 2 hours from everywhere.

SPN: I think Ellen's issue with the Winchester boys isn't just what she blames her dad for, but that Dean lied to her about Jo being there, and then they used her as bait. I think the betrayal of trust, followed by endangering her daughter is set Ellen off, not what their dad may or may not have done.

BSG: An interesting episode. Also worried about Athena getting sick. (Was my first thought once I realized Cylons were going to just leave the Basestar there.) Agreed Apollo's instant weightloss was silly. Loved the scene with Adama, Starbuck and Tigh. I hate to see Tigh go, but I agree he's too broken to really go anywhere with now.

Yay for Starbuck losing the long hair (I normally love long hair, but it never looked right on her) and trying to get her shit together.

As P-C said, both sides were right and both were wrong.

But it looked humanoid. What is it a hybrid of, and how is it different from the Cylon models?

Based on the freaky underwater shots, the hybrid doesn't seems to be missing about half of its body and is interspersed with mechanical equipment, so I'm guessing it's a hybrid betwen the bio and the mechanical Cylons.

For me, the hybrid reminded me of the controller from Dr. Who's "Bad Wolf" epsiode in the way it was hooked up to everything and how it was talking.

Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is the first one I thought of -- same repeated three-beat chord.

That's what the music made me think of too.

For me, the hybrid reminded me of the controller from Dr. Who's "Bad Wolf" epsiode in the way it was hooked up to everything and how it was talking.

That was my thought too.

I also can't have been the only one thinking "Moya would have gotten a vote..."

You just KNOW he was totally showing up at Cassie's door with coffee and pastries when she had midterms,

I know there are some nice stories that centers around the Dean/Cassie relationship, but I just cannot get past that episode because of 1) KILLER RACIST TRUCK, and 2) the girl who played Cassie was also Isabelle from 4400 and I *loathed* Isabelle, and 3) have I mentioned the KILLER RACIST TRUCK? I wish I could get past it because it has half-naked Dean in it, but alas, no.

The hybrid from BSG reminded me of Moya & Pilot, then Agatha from Minority Report. From the underwater view, it looked like her spine was fused into mechanical coils or tubing or something. The visual of her hand softly lying on the machinery part of her body was terribly evocative, I thought.

I just cannot get past that episode because of 1) KILLER RACIST TRUCK, and 2) the girl who played Cassie was also Isabelle from 4400 and I *loathed* Isabelle, and 3) have I mentioned the KILLER RACIST TRUCK?

Hee. I have heard about this, and I am interested in seeing it for myself. It sounds awesome.

I know there are some nice stories that centers around the Dean/Cassie relationship, but I just cannot get past that episode because of 1) KILLER RACIST TRUCK, and 2) the girl who played Cassie was also Isabelle from 4400 and I *loathed* Isabelle, and 3) have I mentioned the KILLER RACIST TRUCK? I wish I could get past it because it has half-naked Dean in it, but alas, no.

Yeah. Route 666 is what one might call a low point (midway through, when I started to do math, my head started to explode, so I turned off my brain), but the idea of Cassie sheds interesting light on Dean, so I'm willing to sort of overlook the huge sucking sound for the additional info there.

And the half-naked Dean.

It sounded really familiar, like it was a deliberate parrot of a piece of music I knew.

Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is the first one I thought of -- same repeated three-beat chord.

On the podcast (recorded with a college class he had lectured last week), Moore said that he had put Beethoven on the temp track and they decided to stick with classical music for all the basestar scenes.

He was also asked about Lee's rapid weight loss, and basically just said it was something they meant to address while writing the early eps, but those scenes were always the first to go when editing them (either before or after filming, I don't know), so finally he just decided to have him skinny for the rest of the eps and filmed a pickup of the scene with him weighing himself and Helo commenting on the newly-reabbed Lee.

Also, the Minority Report similarity was acknowledged as being a conscious one.

Hee. I have heard about this, and I am interested in seeing it for myself. It sounds awesome.

It's like "The Black Market" of SPN. Well, OK. I think "The Black Market" was actually worse, because at least SPN kind of acknowledges the cheesy place from which a lot of their MoTW plots come from. And I haven't seen the other much-maligned episode, "Bugs", so it may not even be the lowest of the low point.

I actually recall liking "Bugs" quite a bit!

And the guy who played Travis in "Bugs" was Connor in Exodus and Collaborators!