Man, just ascend already.

Willow ,'Chosen'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

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§ ita § - Oct 17, 2006 9:02:30 am PDT #2846 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

all of a sudden, he was like, "Super powers, what?"

Precisely. And with a little bit more acceptance/motivation on his part, they might be able to make something happen. It's like the writers are balking at the proof part--it's okay that we know, but not okay that anyone other than, what, Hiro's friend and the bad guys know.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 17, 2006 9:07:47 am PDT #2847 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I keep expecting Mohinder's friend to turn out to be scamming him, and working for the other side, somehow, whatever the other side is.

Me too. The whole conspiracy thing is the yawn factor for me. Luckily, it's been minimal, and I'm beginning to suspect that I may be right and creepy!Dad and friends' intentions may be less sinister than they appear (given that it's been proven that normal cops can't handle Sylar without serious risk).

It's like the writers are balking at the proof part--it's okay that we know, but not okay that anyone other than, what, Hiro's friend and the bad guys know.

Mohinder went from Mulder to Scully at whiplash speed.

eta and I've seen WAY too much MST3K not to think "mo' hinder" everytime I see his name written.


Polter-Cow - Oct 17, 2006 9:08:36 am PDT #2848 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Shut it up, Mohinder!Lite.

Hey! At least I know the difference between SKEPTICISM and CURIOSITY.

Oh my God, like, he's really upset me here. I want to punch him for misrepresenting science like that.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 17, 2006 9:11:55 am PDT #2849 of 10001
What is even happening?

Hey! At least I know the difference between SKEPTICISM and CURIOSITY.

Oh my God, like, he's really upset me here. I want to punch him for misrepresenting science like that.
Yeah, what do you think the writers were trying to reference there--the principle that theories have to be falsifiable, or what? It was like they'd skimmed something in research, and completely mistook it, but I couldn't decide what they'd skimmed.


Polter-Cow - Oct 17, 2006 9:15:10 am PDT #2850 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It was like they'd skimmed something in research, and completely mistook it, but I couldn't decide what they'd skimmed.

It was VERY much like that. Like they'd read something and gotten some sort of GIST, but not actually understood the PRINCIPLE. I mean, I guess they were referring to the fact that a hypothesis, like you said, must be testable, which means it can either pass or fail. But that's the point. The point is not that you assume it's going to fail and GAH.

I mean, yes, if you get the answer you're looking for, do you say, "Hurrah!"? Yes, you do. And then you test it again. You're "skeptical" in the sense that you verify your results (you always have three of everything), but the way Mohinder was...GAH.

I mean, at least Eden was a voice of reason. GOD, MOHINDER. Like you said, Cindy: he's Nathan's frelling BROTHER. And you believe these powers are GENETIC.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 17, 2006 9:21:48 am PDT #2851 of 10001
What is even happening?

That's the thing. Peter is Nathan's brother. If any other random dude showed up at the apartment looking for Chandra Suresh, book in hand, I could understand Mohinder's skepticism. But he'd just been chasing down Nathan, and Nathan did visibly react to him. So his skepticism was just DUMB.

Does anyone else wonder if Peter is of the same kind as Sylar?


Kalshane - Oct 17, 2006 9:31:48 am PDT #2852 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I keep expecting Mohinder's friend to turn out to be scamming him, and working for the other side, somehow, whatever the other side is

Yup. When she left to let them talk I totally thought "And now I shall report this to my evil masters! Mwah-hah-ha!"

Okay, maybe without the laughter.

Does anyone else wonder if Peter is of the same kind as Sylar?

Yup. Only he kills them and eats their brains (or whatever) to take the powers permanently.


Vortex - Oct 17, 2006 11:01:20 am PDT #2853 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

because, what, Hiro can't just "stop time" LOCALLY.

Why not? On Charmed (okay, admittedly not the best example, but bear with me), Piper could only stop time within the room she was in, the rest of the world went on spinning.

Wonder what Claire is running from. Sylar?

My money’s on Daddy.

Does anyone else wonder if Peter is of the same kind as Sylar?

oooh! I envision a scene like that one in Smallville with the two guys that could manipulate people by touching them (like, say, a handshake), gripping hands and trying to be stronger than the other.


Polter-Cow - Oct 17, 2006 11:03:01 am PDT #2854 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Piper could only stop time within the room she was in, the rest of the world went on spinning.

Wouldn't that throw things out of order? I guess since they only ever stop time for a few seconds or so, it wouldn't affect a lot, but...still.


Tom Scola - Oct 17, 2006 11:10:42 am PDT #2855 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

You young folks and your insistence on causality in your science-fiction.