Well, it makes a certain amount of sense. You're an ageless being with the ability to recover from death. Suddenly your safety net is gone and the next time you die, it's for good. That's going to have a major psychological impact. It wouldn't necessarily turn one "evil" but it would probably lead to a major re-examination of how one lives their life.
You know, my big sister could really beat the crap out of her. I mean, really really.
Dawn ,'Storyteller'
Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."
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Kalshane - Oct 15, 2006 5:20:10 pm PDT #2755 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Juliebird - Oct 15, 2006 5:31:24 pm PDT #2756 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Am I do only one likes the idea of a season (or at least a few episodes) of an evil Doctor?
Like I speculated before, I could kinda see it happening as a last-ditch effort to enable some greater good to come about, but we've just seen the Doctor come up against the temptation of saving his people and he refused (thanks to SJSs influence), so barring the "I'll kill myself and a couple dozen to save billions", I can't get behind an "evil" turnabout with his character. I don't see it as feasible, and also wouldn't be interested in watching such a black character development. Grey is far more interesting. "Doctor Who goes evil" is just too much mustache-twirling, and I can't see any legitamacy behind it.
Suddenly your safety net is gone and the next time you die, it's for good. That's going to have a major psychological impact. It wouldn't necessarily turn one "evil" but it would probably lead to a major re-examination of how one lives their life.
exactly. That would take us to a fascinating grey/morally-conflicted area, but the logical outcome most definitely would not be black/evil.
DCJensen - Oct 15, 2006 6:06:13 pm PDT #2757 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
I could have sworn there was an episode waaaay back that implied that The Doctor might not have only 13 lives, or that he might have more coming.
I also seem to recall that the 13 lives was an artificial limit built into their race by the timelords.
I, however, have nothing with which to back that up.
Juliebird - Oct 15, 2006 6:54:29 pm PDT #2758 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
can't find anything on the arificiality of the "13", just this from wiki
It was established in The Deadly Assassin (1976) that a Time Lord can regenerate twelve times before permanently dying, for a total of thirteen incarnations. In the 1996 television movie the Eighth Doctor explicitly said that a Time Lord has "thirteen lives"
From what I've gathered, RTD seems to be at least trying somewhat to stick to the (granted, self-contradictory) canon.
But really, I don't even want to think about the end of DW, or the idea of Ten being replaced. It's depressing thinking about burning through the actors/regenerations and the show ending, but it's equally depressing thinking about another decade or longer with a show I'll be obsessed with :/
DCJensen - Oct 15, 2006 6:59:11 pm PDT #2759 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
OTOH? If the writing keeps up, I can't imagine a Who geek like Tennant giving up the job for a loooong time.
Juliebird - Oct 15, 2006 7:02:22 pm PDT #2760 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
*wails*
I'm loving Tennant, but I just finished watching Casanova, and his mullet is now firmly entrenched in my brain. Could they have made the "greatest lover" look any more like a rat?
I think not :P
I was watching some cooking show with DT and his dad and there young David is, correcting one of the old gents on who the first Doctor actually was, hah! You gotta love an actor who's a bigger geek than you are.
DebetEsse - Oct 15, 2006 7:02:24 pm PDT #2761 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Give in to the obsession, JB.
I do hope Tennant sticks around. I'm really loving the show right now, and I'd like it to keep going.
Juliebird - Oct 15, 2006 7:06:57 pm PDT #2762 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
heh.
and now I'm imagining watching DW at age fifty, with Daniel Radcliffe as the Doctor...
but yes, I'm loving the show, and hope the writing keeps up and that RTD doesn't stretch himself thin with his other shows (dare I say: pull a Whedon and abandon his oldest children? I wasn't involved in the Buffy or Angel fandoms, but rather came to them post-Firefly, and it seemed that the latter seasons suffered, and the correlation to his absence seems glaring)
Polter-Cow - Oct 15, 2006 9:12:42 pm PDT #2763 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Vortex - Oct 16, 2006 5:59:23 am PDT #2764 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
In the 1996 television movie the Eighth Doctor explicitly said that a Time Lord has "thirteen lives"
that's a television movie, does it really count for canonical purposes?
Also, am I the only one who doesn't like this Doctor? He seems too . . .frivolous or something. I mean, there's always been an certain amount of wry humor associated with The Doctor, but always backed by gravitas. I don't feel the gravitas here
hides in corner, waits to be shouted down lovingly.