Angel: I appreciate you guys looking out for Connor all summer. It's just—he's confused. He needs time. That's all. Fred: Right. Time, and some corporal punishment with a large heavy mallet. Not that I'm bitter.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Mikey - Sep 30, 2006 11:01:14 am PDT #2040 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.

I think it's to be part of Masterpiece Theatre, if that makes the local search easier.


Ailleann - Sep 30, 2006 11:05:10 am PDT #2041 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

So folks who are interested might want to check their local PBSs.

Aaaand Tivo is on the case.

God I love you people. (And also my Tivo.)


Kate P. - Sep 30, 2006 3:12:55 pm PDT #2042 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

"The Christmas Invasion" rocked like a rocking thing. I love Harriet Jones and I love that she made that choice at the end, because it's so entirely consistent with her character, and I love the Doctor's reaction, because it's so consistent with his. That whole scene made me all kinds of happy, not least because I don't know which one of them I'd side with.

Also, I'd be interested to hear people's reactions to the Doctor's "six words" at the end of that scene. Would those words have had the same effect if Harriet was male? Her gender is unremarked-upon throughout the episode, IIRC, but I think that tactic only worked because she's female, and therefore, she's still judged more on her appearance than a man would be in the same position. And the Doctor knows that, and uses it against her. Anyway, I thought it was an interesting moment.

Oh, and I continue to love the relationship between Jackie and Mickey. They play off each other really well, in a way that underscores Rose's relationships with both of them and the smallness of her life before the Doctor came along.

"New Earth" was awesome as well. Zoe Wanamaker! And I liked the emphasis on the newness of the Doctor, and how that changes his relationship with Rose; yet he's still recognizably the same man, with the same history, the same morals, and the same joy at just being alive.

Man. I love this show!


Sheryl - Sep 30, 2006 3:16:46 pm PDT #2043 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

I've heard that the six words used against Harriet are the same words used against Margaret Thatcher when she was being forced out. Interesting reference if true.


Beverly - Sep 30, 2006 3:33:18 pm PDT #2044 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

DVR hiccupped, and I missed the last 12 minutes of The Christmas Invasion. Pfeh.


d - Sep 30, 2006 3:48:03 pm PDT #2045 of 10001
It's nice to see some brave pretenders trying to make it interesting.

So I decided to catch up in this thread, over 1,000 posts. How did I not realize that Sarah's voice was Fargo's? Or that Fargo was Mouthbreather? I'm usually pretty good with faces and voices!

I think I must not have been too diligent about Eureka, even though I've watched them all. So I am recording the marathon for rewatch to see if it sinks in better.


tiggy - Sep 30, 2006 4:05:32 pm PDT #2046 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

The Durham, NC area PBS station is advertising that they'll be showing Tennant's Casanova on October 8.

I heard a while ago that PBS was planning on airing it, but i never heard when. so thanks! part one is airing here then, but i can't find part two yet.

Tennant won me over on so many occasions it's not even funny. i loved Eccleston, but i also LOVE Tennant. i really haven't seen anyone who adored Eccleston not warm up to Tennant's version.


Kate P. - Sep 30, 2006 4:35:38 pm PDT #2047 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I've heard that the six words used against Harriet are the same words used against Margaret Thatcher when she was being forced out. Interesting reference if true.

Oh, wow. I hadn't heard that. I wonder if the show parallels Harriet Jones with Margaret Thatcher in other ways? Might be interesting to track.


WindSparrow - Sep 30, 2006 5:19:13 pm PDT #2048 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I think it will take a few more episodes before the whole, "not just a new face, but actually a new person, in a lot of ways" really sinks in, because I think they're playing up the character continuity, which is likely a good thing.
I adore how Tennant's Doctor has so many traits which are far more consistent with various old school Doctors, plus a bit of the Ninth, together with his own flair.

As for Harriet Jones, I think that it may well have been that hint of her clutching to her power that decided the Doctor to take her down. If she had reacted to him calling her on the carpet for destroying the Sycorax by saying, "It may have been the wrong thing to do, but I dare not take the chance that they wouldn't have turned around and attacked again when you weren't here, after seeing their leader try to kill you after surrendering. It was a horrible thing to have to do, and oh god, I don't know how I'm going to sleep at night. I believe that was what I had to do, but if you think I'm not fit to lead, you may be right," rather than, "You wouldn't dare!" the Doctor may not have gotten his knickers in such a twist.

I could be wrong.


tavella - Sep 30, 2006 6:23:27 pm PDT #2049 of 10001
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

The destruction of the Sycorax ship as they were retreating is based on the attack on the Belgrano during the Falklands war, so yeah, there's more than one parallel.