So there is something I can do, besides scream like a woman?

Wesley ,'Chosen'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Nutty - Sep 29, 2006 9:31:42 am PDT #2004 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Although it's a tactical mistake for Sam to have refused to kill his father, it was a decision that supported the familial political situation going on. If Sam had done it, Dean would never have forgiven him, and the family would have been destroyed. (Presuming Dean would have survived, which is a shaky presumption to go with.)

I have come around to the argument (from Micole) that John's solitary death -- rather than its facilitation by anyone else in the family -- allows the family to remain a unit. Dean's death -- end of family. Sam's murdering John -- same. (Sam wasn't in serious danger of death at all, although I can imagine ways in which his death might have split the family, or kept it together, depending on circumstances.)

Also, allowing things to end up as they have allows for more plot-thickener at later dates, as Marble-Eyes breaks his deal with John, or Dean tells Sam what was whispered in his ear, or smartypants Sam puts two and two together and gets five, or -- etc. etc.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 29, 2006 9:31:49 am PDT #2005 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Jeffry Dean Morgan just can't catch a break, can he?


Nutty - Sep 29, 2006 9:34:56 am PDT #2006 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, he probably should stick to lawyer-show roles for a while; that way he can end up disbarred or in prison rather than in flimsy buttless cotton outfits and then dead.


SailAweigh - Sep 29, 2006 9:41:20 am PDT #2007 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I've only watched a couple of episodes of Supernatural, but it sounds like a heck of a lot happened in one season. The show is starting to sound a lot more attractive. I may have to ahem a few episodes to check it out.


Polter-Cow - Sep 29, 2006 9:43:00 am PDT #2008 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I've only watched a couple of episodes of Supernatural, but it sounds like a heck of a lot happened in one season.

Heh, really? I actually got the opposite impression, but that's what happens when you condense a season into fifteen seconds.


sumi - Sep 29, 2006 9:44:09 am PDT #2009 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Nutty -- I agree with you.

And yeah, JDM needs to stay out of hospitals while appearing in dramatic series.


sumi - Sep 29, 2006 9:44:46 am PDT #2010 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Sail - you can Netflix or otherwise rent or buy the first season on dvd.


SailAweigh - Sep 29, 2006 9:45:50 am PDT #2011 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Yeah, see, I thought is was going to be another MotW kind of show. Now it turns out it's all about family. Which is much more interesting because then the monsters are the family itself. Fun!


Nutty - Sep 29, 2006 10:05:37 am PDT #2012 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Oh, it really was a Monster of the Week show for a long time, with little bits and pieces about the family arc. Then, end of the season, lots of family, NSM with the random monster action. I full expect the early-middle of this season to return to the random monsters, and maybe some new iteration of family will come up again in spring Sweeps.

(Not that there are a lot of physical candidates for "new iteration of family," but, on this show, it's a long time after you're dead before you have to stop guest-starring.)


sumi - Sep 29, 2006 10:11:11 am PDT #2013 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think Kripke said that there would be less arc in the beginning -- but the brothers' relationship is the glue to me and that is always there.