I'm so evil and... skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Juliebird - Sep 28, 2006 1:36:59 am PDT #1921 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Yes, i'll be playing Carter's new midget minion from outer space.

exxxxxcellent! :P

This worked for Francesca Buller.

but hopefully without all the prosthetics

The Stark/Henry conversation brought some great depth to both characters. Stark is easily becoming the most complex character on the show and EQ nails it.

I couldn't agree more. Also, I melt everytime EQ uses his "I need to know" voice.

hanging out with SARAH and there was no acknowledgement that she had just fuckin' killed someone.

because it was BRAD, who I assume was disabled? But can you remove a program if that's what SARAH's built on top of?

When Jack was out sick and Jo was off playing paintball, who was left to guard the town?

Shoot, who's their backup if they get in a jam? Allison and the GD task force? But as for this ep, Jo had her pager on her, so maybe she was on-call, and that's normal? All calls to the station get directed to her pager? Or maybe it's "when the cats are away..." and Jo was being a very delinquint deputy.


DXMachina - Sep 28, 2006 2:09:36 am PDT #1922 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

When Jack was out sick and Jo was off playing paintball, who was left to guard the town? I sure hope there is at least one more deputy we have not met yet.

That didn't bother me at all. Lots of small towns don't have complete 24/7 coverage with their police force. The next town over from mine has no police force at all. They have just a single town constable. Jo was on-call, and had her pager with her. As someone said, the main potential trouble spot already has their own security force.

Meanwhile, I thought we had come to the conclusion that the medicine on House, M.D. is so ... unreliable... as to qualify as science fiction, and therefore the show qualified for discussion here.

The team make lots of mistakes in diagnosis, but that doesn't make the medicine science fiction, it just makes the show very formulaic. Polite Dissent usually gives the medicine decent marks for accuracy.


Theodosia - Sep 28, 2006 2:59:59 am PDT #1923 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

re House: Yeah, the biggest complaint is that these "cures" take a whole lot longer in real life, aren't necessarily as restorative as portrayed, and especially diagnostically-inclined doctors don't do all these complicated procedures and surgeries which take years of training in specializations themselves. (It's like asking a plumber to fix your electrical outlet....)

Welcome, machall! I totally missed the Pizza Pi on the uniform!


Frankenbuddha - Sep 28, 2006 3:20:01 am PDT #1924 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Welcome machall (and littlebug!)

This worked for Francesca Buller.

I was thinking the same thing, but now I'm recasting FARSCAPE with the EUREKA cast.

Colin as Crichton, natch (you can never go wrong with black leather).

Ed as D'Argo - no, wait - Joe as D'Argo; Ed as Scorpy (sorry Ed)

Or maybe Ed as D'Argo and Joe as Pilot?

Fargo as Rygel

Taggert as Stark?

I guess Allison has to be Aeryn, even though I think Jo's closer. But Jo would make a decent Chiana in a pinch (although so could Zoe).

Guess that leaves Debrah as Zhaan?


WindSparrow - Sep 28, 2006 3:33:26 am PDT #1925 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Hi, machal. And hi, anyone else new that I have not greeted because I am clueless and/or have CRS*.

  • Can't Remember Stuff.


Deena - Sep 28, 2006 5:11:31 am PDT #1926 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Another real-world nitpick on Eureka: When Jack was out sick and Jo was off playing paintball, who was left to guard the town?

Yeah, I'm with DX on this one. When I lived in a small town it had no police force at all. The state loaned the town a highway patrol officer, and in exchange the town gave the officer an apartment rent-free. He didn't really do much but patrol the highways, but in a real emergency he was the nearest assistance. Of course, that town didn't have nearly the emergencies Eureka does.

There were things that bugged, but I'm going to mention the things I liked, most specifically, The Look. The way Jack looked at Allison after she's just backed Stark up and said the scientist hadn't broken the law. That was a good moment. It underlined that Allison (who seems to need to be needed [I think Salli plays straightforward flirtatious or really cranky better than torn-between-two-lovers]) had chosen Stark in the previous episode, and the whole set-up, with Henry deciding to leave and Allison making her choice, made Jack realize again that he was still an outsider--that their culture was not his, and the friendships he'd made might not be enough to bridge that gap. That jagged moment of awareness was well done.

(I have to say that SARAH came back too easily, especially considering that Jack did nothing to the generator. It made me wonder if, rather than BRAD taking over, she was using that AI--imperfectly, perhaps, considering the pizza guy--to make sure that everyone still liked her after it was all over and she'd, hopefully, gotten her way.

I wish I understood how payment works in Eureka. Carpe Diem is free but you have to pay for pizza and chocolate? I am confused.

I was also really pleased with Henry and Nathan's interaction in the kitchen. I liked that Stark had a real reason for what he did, and LOVED that Henry thought of him as his star pupil. The whole thing added some nice texture. Henry can't know about the artifact (other than the fact of its existence, which I think everyone knows by now) and yet, whatever his words, Stark's drive there is all about knowing, not about application.


bon bon - Sep 28, 2006 5:35:17 am PDT #1927 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

As someone said, the main potential trouble spot already has their own security force.

This is an interesting point, although they seem to need Carter a lot. Like to rescue burning scientists. But the paintball/sick day thing bothered me too, and I'm satisfied with the above explanations.


Ginger - Sep 28, 2006 5:39:37 am PDT #1928 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

My ex was a detective in a sheriff's department in a small county, and even with more officers, the job is more reacting to calls than patrolling. This works pretty well, because in a small town, everyone knows everyone else's business, so if a stranger started taking things out of someone's house, his neighbor would call the sheriff. Jo had her pager, and I'd bet that every person in town has both their home numbers.

I'm willing to handwave that whacking the generator just turned the AI off momentarily and reset the programming. It really didn't look like a generator you could destroy with a baseball bat. I can also handwave that they're staying in the house because Fargo added that back door to the programming and and programmed in more failsafes. My wrists are getting tired, though.


Ailleann - Sep 28, 2006 5:43:48 am PDT #1929 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I wish I understood how payment works in Eureka. Carpe Diem is free but you have to pay for pizza and chocolate? I am confused.

My guess would be that they have some kind of online account for each person. If you go to a restaurant (or, I'm assuming, whatever they have that's a grocery store), you scan your little display unit or whatever and it charges your account. Zoe probably took it without letting anyone know. Maybe Jack didn't want to use his card because he was sick of Eureka and all its tech?

::handwaving makes a nice breeze::


DXMachina - Sep 28, 2006 5:54:42 am PDT #1930 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Maybe Jack didn't want to use his card because he was sick of Eureka and all its tech?

Or the cash part was actually just the tip. I have a friend who always tips with cash, rather than adding it to the credit card bill.

This is an interesting point, although they seem to need Carter a lot. Like to rescue burning scientists.

That's the part I don't get. Security is always available to chase after missing congressmen and to retrieve the bodies of employees, but I can't recall ever seeing it used within the facility itself other than down in Section 5.