The girl's not playing with a full deck, Giles. She has almost no deck. She has a three.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Deena - Mar 23, 2003 11:53:00 pm PST #981 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I'd rather you post than shut. Maybe after the second job goes by the wayside?


Liese S. - Mar 24, 2003 12:45:24 am PST #982 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I have nothing significant to add, but I think the work here is superb and I adore this thread.


Ms. Havisham - Mar 24, 2003 1:03:30 am PST #983 of 10001
And we will call it... "This Land."

Maybe after the second job goes by the wayside?

It'll have to be. I'll need posting space on a webpage or a list of volunteers or something. I've got something in progress that I'd like crits on, but posting it in the thread wouldn't work.

We'll see, come next week. I haven't even touched my taxes yet.


victor infante - Mar 24, 2003 11:10:17 am PST #984 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Victor, marked. Will go look when I can actually sit down and read without being snorted on.

Heh. Thanks, and thanks to all. Hope people enjoy it. Through the magic of the Internet, it may change depending on people's reactions. I'm hoping to use this as a means to launch it to some small press, then get it off my back all together so I can concentrate on new projects, like the magazine and such.


Betsy HP - Mar 24, 2003 12:11:10 pm PST #985 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

And I just don't *get* that model at all. I don't do that. I'm conscious of every single word and how it affects the text as a whole.

Rebecca, first the magic happens. Then I edit like hell. And iterate. Fix a little, create a little, fix a little, create a little.

Like, last night I started a weird sonnet-mutant. There were spaces in my mind where words had to fit. Something something heat, reduce. What's going to fit in there that matches my thought and matches the meter?

When I finally had a draft, there was that temporary-resolution moment. I had a plateau to rest on. Now I can nitpick every word, tune it, rip some bits out, but I know what the architecture is, I know what the poem is saying, I know what the time sequence is. I didn't know any of that when I set down the first line.

The torturous times are when the magic won't come and I have to plow through without it.


deborah grabien - Mar 24, 2003 4:03:13 pm PST #986 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Victor, reading....

Meanwhile, a question/sitatuation:

Years ago, I wrote a suspense thriller with supernatural overtones (yeah, I know, there's a big surprise) called "Still Life With Devils." It was one of three casualties of my divorce from the publishing industry in 1993; my agent at the time did nothing for it, no clue how to deal with it, and I simply put it away and forgot it until about 18 months ago or so.

What with the splendid current agent, it's being revisited with a view towards submission, possibly under a psuedonym, although that's likely unnecessary, since ghosts and supernaturals are fairly closely linked with my work and name. Thing is, she (Jenn, the agent) made some really good points about things that need moving, dropping, altering, adding and whatnotting. A lot of the changes (infuriating) are things I changed at the request of the first agent, notably "They're black? You can't make the brother and sister in this black! You're white and you'll piss off the black community because you're, well, white!"

Gah.

Question is, if anyone wants to read and comment on this thing as it now stands, would you let me know? This is not not NOT an editing read; it's a read-as-end-user and so, tell me true, what strikes you about the story? read. No edits, typo checks, etc and whatnots required; read and review as a reader, not an editor, basically.

Anyone who does will be much loved and also added to the thanks/acknowledgments page.

If anyone's remotely interested, give a yell and I'll shoot a PDF over.


§ ita § - Mar 24, 2003 4:06:03 pm PST #987 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Deb, you sent me a copy many residences ago, and I have no idea where it is. Can you sling me another?


Steph L. - Mar 24, 2003 4:07:25 pm PST #988 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Deb, I *definitely* do! Can you send it to ivy_623 AT hotmail DOT com?

Also, if you're interested, here's the latest on my back-pain saga: Steph L. "Spike's Bitches 5: One... Good... Day" Mar 24, 2003 5:12:20 pm EST


Anne W. - Mar 24, 2003 4:09:17 pm PST #989 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Deb, I'd be happy to help out. My home email has a 1 meg limit, however, so if you could send it to my work addy, that would be best. It's aweber AT bernan DOT com.


Steph L. - Mar 24, 2003 4:10:49 pm PST #990 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Oh, yeah. My hotmail has a 1 meg limit, but I was assuming a PDF would be under 1 meg. Hmmm. Well, give it a shot.