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The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Pix - Feb 06, 2005 3:01:47 am PST #9776 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I finished that essay finally! It still needs some work, but one of my dearest RL friends helped me a lot. What a relief.

Now I'm going to stack some cats and go to bed.
This cracks me up.


Susan W. - Feb 07, 2005 7:05:55 pm PST #9777 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

New topic, Teppy?

Suggestions, at least partly pulled from random objects I can see from the computer:

Bread
Fruit
Calendar
Doors
Love scenes (can be sexual, but don't have to be)


Scrappy - Feb 07, 2005 7:38:49 pm PST #9778 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

How about discovery or opposites? Or looking at a view?


Susan W. - Feb 07, 2005 7:48:49 pm PST #9779 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

ION, tonight I discovered that one member of my writers group has been imagining my lovely hero, Jack, as a Robert Redford type.

A world of no.

Of course, the problem might be that this guy is a good 20-25 years older than me, so it's entirely possible his mental Robert Redford looks better than mine. But still, Nathan Fillion needs to get more famous, so when I say to my writers group, "Insofar as Jack looks like anybody but himself, he looks like Nathan Fillion, only not as extremely tall," I won't get blank stares.


Connie Neil - Feb 07, 2005 7:56:52 pm PST #9780 of 10001
brillig

Robert Redford was a stone hottie back in the day.


Susan W. - Feb 07, 2005 8:18:46 pm PST #9781 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

t looks up early Redford works on IMDB

Still not my type. And definitely nothing like the mental image of Jack I'm trying to convey. Similar build, maybe. But totally different bone structure, and Jack isn't blond.

Not a big deal. As long as readers think he's sexy, it's all good. But sometimes I wish I could draw even a little bit so I could capture what I have in mind.


Beverly - Feb 07, 2005 8:31:07 pm PST #9782 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Susan, Susan, Susan, ixnay on the over-escribing-day. When you get right down to it, it doesn't matter what an author thinks his or her characters look like. What matters is that the reader--all fifty-four million of them--knows exactly how they look. They can look like a favorite movie star or the guy behind the counter at Best Buy, or the new pediatrician, or the second fiddle in the civic symphony, or the local weather person. Crush objects, upon whom a reader can hang your character.

Truly, I like characters described, at most, with maybe height, relative to other characters, eye and hair color, or a prominent jaw, or a flying eyebrow, something unique to the character, without a detailed photographic description. So your Nathan Fillion can be someone else's Robert Redford and still be Jack.


§ ita § - Feb 07, 2005 8:33:28 pm PST #9783 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Especially for those that think Nathan's ugly -- do you want to saddle them with that? The feelings his appearance conveys are more important -- but don't depend on the appearance to spell it out.


Susan W. - Feb 07, 2005 8:51:47 pm PST #9784 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

No, no, no, I really don't overdescribe! I know better than that! It's just always weird to me when someone in my writers group names an actor that I just can't imagine fitting the scraps of description I've included. I think all I've said about Jack is that he has chestnut hair and light brown eyes, that he's lean, a bit on the rawboned side, and has hands that would make Teppy a very happy woman indeed. Oh, and he has some sexy scars. Only scattered throughout chapter one and not in those words, because some of them are anachronistic, and my readers would wonder who the heck this Teppy person was.


Beverly - Feb 07, 2005 9:04:02 pm PST #9785 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Hee. Now I want to read a book set in a historical period with fancy-dress and told in Buffista-speak. It will sell exactly 74 copies--to us. But it would be fun! Maybe we can get the writerly types together and write it en committee, like Spiral.

Or perhaps I've had a few too many gingersnaps this evening and the sugar rush has made me giddy.

I made a great point of not describing a female character once upon a time. She was my that-world avatar, and I was looking out from her eyes, so to speak, and I never "saw" her. So aside from the fact she was young and female, I left her appearance to the reader's imagination. Imagine my surprise one evening when I turned on the tv and, in a short-lived summer replacement show set in a completely different historical place and time, there was an actress who just clicked as my character. I'd never pictured her, and here she was. Sort of unsettling.