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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Jesse - Jan 26, 2005 4:40:07 pm PST #9691 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

According to my 2005 Writer's Market, $100 is a high hourly rate for grant writing, $20 a low, with $50 an average. But that's going to vary based on your location, experience level, etc.

That sounds right. I dunno, mostly I'm trying to figure out if I can ask for more than my friend does. Possibly, since I've literally never freelanced before (other than for said friend), I should just take the lower rate and STFU.


Betsy HP - Jan 26, 2005 4:40:52 pm PST #9692 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Can I just take that into account by padding the number of hours I report, or is that totally shady?

That's totally shady. You can play it one of two ways: One, estimate a fixed price for the entire job and stick to it. If it takes you less time than you estimated, you profit. If it takes you more time, you lose. Two: be paid per hour, and report every hour honestly.


Susan W. - Jan 26, 2005 4:47:34 pm PST #9693 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

(Off to choir practice, so if I get any beta volunteers, I'll send you the stuff when I get home at 9:00ish.)


Jesse - Jan 26, 2005 4:48:06 pm PST #9694 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OK, thanks, Betsy. I literally can't even imagine how long things take in real time anymore because I've never had a job where I didn't spend huge amounts of time screwing around, but still getting my work done in time.


erikaj - Jan 26, 2005 4:50:24 pm PST #9695 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I'd be happy to, Susan, but I'm kind of out of historical practice.


Liese S. - Jan 26, 2005 4:54:37 pm PST #9696 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, the fixed rate thing can screw you over, too, if the project does end up taking significantly longer than you (and your client) agreed to. Buddy of ours just ran into this with a recording project and, through his generosity, ended up screwed out of four grand.

Anyway, I dunno the going rates, but I also think it's fine for you to offer a higher rate than your friend. Just remember that they're also totally free to tell you, no, that rate is too high for them.


Ginger - Jan 26, 2005 4:57:07 pm PST #9697 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I can look at it, Susan. I can have it back to you by Saturday.


Jesse - Jan 26, 2005 4:57:44 pm PST #9698 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, the fixed rate thing can screw you over, too, if the project does end up taking significantly longer than you (and your client) agreed to.

I just have no experience to base a time estimate on, sadly. Eh. It'll be fine -- what my friend is charging is still several times what I make in my office job per hour.


Betsy HP - Jan 26, 2005 5:08:35 pm PST #9699 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I hate fixed-price contracts for exactly the reason Liese gives. It means that the client can waste your time for free. When it's on the clock, at least you get paid for taking commas out and then replacing them.


§ ita § - Jan 26, 2005 5:09:33 pm PST #9700 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wouldn't go near a fixed price contract without a billable change control mechanism in place.