The Great Write Way
A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.
Whether I try to use critical perspective or no, I agree with P-C -- Christopher Pike was better than R.L. Stine.
Yes, but my point is, did you think that at age 12, reading them?
Cast your memory back to however old you were when you read the things, and try to remember their impact on you - those writers, any writers - at that age.
Because, you know, maybe I was a terribly underachieving twelve-year-old, but my reaction to Wind in the Willows at that age? Did not include mental sentences like "Well, of course, Grahame is using the original foundation of the sexuality in the Pan myth as an underpinning, with the metaphor of willing restlessness...."
And I don't believe anyone else thinks like that at age ten or twelve or whatever, either.
Any look we take at a childhood or adolescent read as adults is going to be coloured by the adult sophistication we've attained. I wanted to know what the visceral reactions - the kind most often seen in children - were to these authors.
Except the part where I had to figure out how to get the kids-morphed-into-cows out of a slaughterhouse.
OK. This just sounds FUN.
I'm now hard at work trying to track down editors and agents for our conference. So far my two best nibbles were the agent AmyLiz recommended I call and another agent who works with a promising newly-published writer in our chapter. It's amazing what a little name-dropping will do. The only thing I did differently in talking to them was say "AmyLiz suggested I call you," and "I know you work with M from our chapter," and they're all, "Seattle! Great! Been trying to get out there for awhile. Let me check my calendar, and I'll get back to you in a few days."
Susan? Ahem....
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I'm not saying cold-call her and say "Deb Grabien said to!" but she does do conferences, and she does do RWA. No idea what her schedule looks like.
She's very unfearsome.
And I don't believe anyone else thinks like that at age ten or twelve or whatever, either.
But there's a pretty huge range between that and just "It scared me" or whatever.
I remember being in second grade, and we had an assignment to read a book and write two sentences about it. I wanted to write more than two sentences -- I had a lot to say about this book -- and I handed in my full page of writing, and the teacher called my mother, because it was "developmentally inappropriate" for me to have more than two sentences to say about a book.
I remember being in second grade, and we had an assignment to read a book and write two sentences about it. I wanted to write more than two sentences -- I had a lot to say about this book -- and I handed in my full page of writing, and the teacher called my mother, because it was "developmentally inappropriate" for me to have more than two sentences to say about a book.
I'm starting to formulate a theory about second grade teachers. It isn't pretty. None of our Buffistas are second grade teachers, are they?
My second grade teacher accused me of LYING about having read a book so fast.
I don't think I've ever really recovered.
Thanks, Deb. I think she may have been to our conference in the past 3-4 years, though. I'll doublecheck if I get a refusal from any of the agents I currently have an open request for (since if they all accept, the agent part of our panel will be full). Also, she's already doing Whidbey Island this year, so I don't know if she'll want to do another Seattle area conference so soon.
I'm glad I looked at her website, though. I'd forgotten all about the Whidbey Island thing. No point in doing it this year, since it's just two months away, and I won't have a completed ms to pitch. But next year, maybe.
(Yeah, I know there's reason to attend conferences beside pitching a book. But they're so very, very expensive for my freelancer budget that I need that to justify the expense. Craft help can be had cheaper, and networking can be done at my local chapter and online.)
I had a very goodnatured second grade teacher. Third on the other hand... sheesh.
But there's a pretty huge range between that and just "It scared me" or whatever.
Oh, hell yes. Total agreement; trust me, I was pretty frellin' articulate at ten. But the ability to totally detach from the immediate punch of a book (not just horror, either - think about your first reaction ever to something like "To Kill A Mockingbird") is something that I don't believe is remotely the norm until some college professor gets their grip on you. (edit for future clarity: that's metaphorical - the urge to wonder about it actually came my way about 13, but the skill to follow the trail and see where it led wasn't until high school.)
I remember being in second grade, and we had an assignment to read a book and write two sentences about it. I wanted to write more than two sentences -- I had a lot to say about this book -- and I handed in my full page of writing, and the teacher called my mother, because it was "developmentally inappropriate" for me to have more than two sentences to say about a book.
If any of you scientist types can build me a time machine, I would love to go back and smack some of these "help the child formulate" adults.
Amy, YOU did that to Rachel? I thought that was one of the most effective of the later books, and so did Nick, and we didn't like many of the later ones, and hated the ending a LOT.
