Buffy: Dancing with you is way better than trying to hook up with some good-looking guy. Xander: I think I liked it more when you were kicking me in my puffy groin.

'Get It Done'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Alibelle - Oct 18, 2002 6:56:06 pm PDT #92 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

That's the thing, Connie, my professor would really prefer it not be "genre fiction," which she doesn't appreciate. She just wants "fiction." But since I'm just much happier working within a genre, I might just have to ignore her preference a little bit. Thank you so much though.


Connie Neil - Oct 18, 2002 7:06:42 pm PDT #93 of 10001
brillig

What is the difference between genre fiction and fiction? Is "fiction" that Oprah style stuff that deals with angst and relationships and people being content with the lives they have etc. etc.? Mmm, maybe I should stop, just in case you like that stuff.

Short stories, mmm ... vignette type things, where someone who doesn't need a lot of introduction falls into something or observes something that makes an impression. Kid losing a balloon at the fair, and an adult nearby remembers themselves at a fair, losing the balloon and remembering their feelings of lose. Put in some metaphors about how things we love slip away.

Or something. Stories like that make me twitchy, cause I read/write for escape and excitement. Remembering personal pain doesn't make for an evening's entertainment.


Alibelle - Oct 18, 2002 7:09:59 pm PDT #94 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

You got it exactly on the nose perfectly right, Connie. And I read for the same reason you do. So I'm thinking that if she really has such an issue with genre, that's simply too bad, because I can't write just straight up my-boyfriend-left-me-and-I'm-angry fiction. It's boring for me. So I'm thinking of doing a crazy fairy tale mish mash type of thing. But I'm not sure where to go with it, exactly.


Connie Neil - Oct 18, 2002 7:14:37 pm PDT #95 of 10001
brillig

I was talking to a friend who wrote science fiction, and she complained that she could think of no original idea. I said that the last people who had original ideas were the Greeks, and even then they may have been stealing from the Sea Peoples and the cavemen. The basic themes are always the same, it's the trappings and treatments that change. Vampire/human slash is just another facet of two people falling in love/lust despite differences. Xander/Spike could just as easily be Romeo and Juliet--without the icky suicides. I suppose someone thought of stories dealing with the impact of an efficient horse-drawn carriage on society, what with easy transportation and people mingling. Not much different than Star Trek.


Alibelle - Oct 18, 2002 7:19:10 pm PDT #96 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Yeah, there's maybe 50 plots, if that many. But I'm indecisive, and I can't pick one.

Thanks, though, just talking about this is helping.


Connie Neil - Oct 18, 2002 7:24:58 pm PDT #97 of 10001
brillig

I can maunder on for ages on the persistence of plots through literature. Glad it's helping, though.


Rebecca Lizard - Oct 18, 2002 7:25:14 pm PDT #98 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Xander/Spike could just as easily be Romeo and Juliet--without the icky suicides.

I'm sorry, I went to a snuff place.

Ali, I'm your girl, if there's anything I can do. rebecca_lizard@worldcrossing.com, anything you got yet, or mmerlizard on AIM.

[edited months later to change email address. if you, reader, were wondering]


Rebecca Lizard - Oct 18, 2002 7:39:04 pm PDT #99 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

... The phone just rang and kicked me offline, Alibelle. This other computer with the second phone line doesn't have AIM. I'll be back on as soon as my mother hangs up-- a few minutes, I think?


Alibelle - Oct 18, 2002 7:40:05 pm PDT #100 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Got it, thanks. And thanks again, Connie!


Connie Neil - Oct 18, 2002 7:44:31 pm PDT #101 of 10001
brillig

Sure 'nuff. Any time you want to chat plot theory and characters and all that fun stuff, I'm your woman. It was kind of thrill in one of my Freshman classes on literature to realize I understood Aristotle's Poetics and his discussions of plot development and the like.