I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Consuela - Mar 12, 2003 5:20:54 pm PST #842 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Nowhere near novel-length, Deb. I think it might be 3,000 words or so now, and I'm planning on trimming it down.

It's just weird, and I don't know what to do with it.


Consuela - Mar 12, 2003 5:23:03 pm PST #843 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

See, now, I don't think it's really appropriate for a climbing magazine, because it's very much on the novice level. It's not highly technical, not a trip report.

But then I dunno, the only climbing magazines I know are the big national ones, "Climbing" and "Rock and Ice", who have no interest in anyone who doesn't have less than 10% body fat and climb over 5.11.

edited to fix wonkiness.


Steph L. - Mar 12, 2003 5:26:23 pm PST #844 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

That's why I suggested The Sun -- they publish *writing,* you know? Good writing that touches on emotions people can relate to, even if the reader has never been climbing in her life. I've read some of it in your blog, and I think it might be worth a shot to submit it.


Brynn - Mar 12, 2003 7:16:51 pm PST #845 of 10001
"I'd rather discuss the permutations of swordplay, with an undertone of definite allusion to sex." Beverly, offering an example of when your characters give you 'tude.

I'm just going to be brave and throw this out there...

I posted earlier about my working on a novel for the first time (I've only ever written short stories, and I've only had one published) and I'm running into editing problems, because I pitched the whole story to my editing group (at university) and now a lot of them feel that they can't properly critique the first chapter because they know where the plot is going (which I think is bunk, personally). I'm feeling sort of anxious about it. I mean, I'm happy with what I've written, but I'm not sure about pacing, and my exposition (stuff that is wildly condensed in my short stories, but obviously now requires more room to spread out). Anyone interested in having a read?


deborah grabien - Mar 12, 2003 7:24:37 pm PST #846 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Brynn, you bet. Send it to sf_deb@yahoo.com. Is this just the first chapter? I'm in final edits on two full novels at the moment, but if this is the first chapter, I'll give it priority.


Consuela - Mar 12, 2003 7:52:43 pm PST #847 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

now a lot of them feel that they can't properly critique the first chapter because they know where the plot is going

That is bunk. I can't edit (other than line-edits) unless I have the whole picture in my head.

But then, that's just me.


deborah grabien - Mar 12, 2003 8:05:37 pm PST #848 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I can critique either way, but I'll confess that if I'm being specifically asked to critique or give any sort of input on a character question, it helps if I don't know said character's headspace/motivation ahead of time.


Brynn - Mar 12, 2003 8:12:33 pm PST #849 of 10001
"I'd rather discuss the permutations of swordplay, with an undertone of definite allusion to sex." Beverly, offering an example of when your characters give you 'tude.

deborah grabien:

Wow, thank you so very much. It's not exactly sci-fi or fantasy though? It that alright?

edit: Yes, it's only the first chapter. About 17 pages, double-spaced, 14 font. What format would you like it in, .doc or rtf?


deborah grabien - Mar 12, 2003 8:30:16 pm PST #850 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

It's not exactly sci-fi or fantasy though? It that alright?

Yes, absolutely, since I read very little of either, and ditto for writing it. Mine are more in the classic ghost story vein. No scifi or fantasy required.

.doc is fine. Send at your leisure.


Brynn - Mar 12, 2003 8:50:01 pm PST #851 of 10001
"I'd rather discuss the permutations of swordplay, with an undertone of definite allusion to sex." Beverly, offering an example of when your characters give you 'tude.

Okay, it's sent.