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Zoe ,'The Train Job'


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erikaj - Dec 01, 2004 7:18:44 am PST #8395 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

( continues...) the only one jealous she missed it when the Lizard King picked Phoenix to drop trou.
“God gets most of the credit though. You have good bones, under all that.” Bones....even though it’s the last thing she wants, Cheryl’s eyes are drawn to the crutches against the wall. She picks up the spray bottle instead of asking, and says “If you don’t have good bones, there are limits to what somebody like me can do for you.”

The silence gets a little long and Cheryl spritzes Lynda’s hair for a minute then says “I...didn’t mean anything. By the bone thing...I just mean you have a nice structure in your face.” Cheryl has to hand it to Lynda.
She handles that first snip like a champ, a real tough cookie, although she’s probably been through enough that Hair Trauma doesn’t even rate. No Jo March “My one beauty!” theatrics here, though she has known people to cry in her chair...mostly process victims, women who skipped a step doing their own color and feared facing life with orange, or green, hair.It was always good, bringing them back, even as she cursed their do it yourself spirit. Hair is a very personal thing.

“Yeah... I understand.”If she had gone to high school with Cheryl, she might’ve said “No sweat.” If they had been girlfriends and eavesdropped on “Soul Train” together, she might have said “Ain’t no thing.” Her attitude is more like the last, despite her careful diction.
Cheryl wonders what this woman did in high school, what it was like...with, whatever.” I had polio. One of the last cases in the state.” Lynda said, as if she could read the stylist’s mind. Maybe it should be the other way around, since Cheryl is messing around on Lynda’s head, but it isn’t.


deborah grabien - Dec 01, 2004 8:09:19 am PST #8396 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Reeling from all the stuff.

OK, first off, Kristin, I'm with Cindy in wanting the final paragraph to be concise and unsentimental. And I've got no strong feelings about the title, which means that, in my head, it's probably fine. My friend Ellen Sussman - she wrote a very good weepy novel called On A Night Like This) - had a My Turn piece published. It was gut-wrenching, talking about when she was gang-raped, beaten and left to die, and how she deals with it in her writing and in talking to Sophy and Gillian about it (her daughters). This sounds like a perfect piece for them; I was thinking about submitting a piece myself, but not for awhile yet. Also, I couldn't find their submission guidelines anywhere. Can you link?

erika, this one's really coming together. Some minor stuff:

Something doesn’t fit or is uneven, she can train it back or trim it, squirt it with water or product, something.

This stopped me, because the phrasing sounds like a positive statement: Something doesn't fit. I know it's purely stylistic, but I really think you need to open that sentence with a conjunction or an adverb or something to qualify it: If something doesn't fit or When something doesn't fit. The first half of that sentence is a cause, the second half is a resulting action. Right now, it reads like two separate statements, so I got thrown.

This floored me:

It’s not hard to get stuck in the past in this salon...salon being a gross overstatement. This is an old-school beauty shop, not one of those sybaritic temples to Paul Mitchell promising coconut-scented hairgasms.

This:

She can see the sigh over her head in a balloon like in her kids’ comic books.

Needs a bit of restructuring. Maybe something like "She can see the sigh, in a balloon over her head, like something in one of her kids' comic books." Also, I'd break the paragraph after "books".

Because I’m not fucking dead, Pete.

I'd italicise that, since it's a response in her head, and it ought to be visually broken out from the narrative.

As much as I love "her husband would do more than make lovesick faces at the Nancy Spungeon wanna-be next door.", I'm not sure how many of your readers would know she was Sid Vicious' girlfriend.

I'd suggest a slight rephrase here, to make it flow: "Then, she is touched by the trust." Simply "She's touched by Lynda's trust", to take away the sense of a clock ticking.

And one more thing - when she's commenting on Lynda's good bones, and she says "under all that", I somehow saw Cousin It, face entirely obscured by hair.

(and since I hate the name Lynda, with that spelling, because that was Nicky's miserable life-ruining wife's real name, I feel all noble for not letting it get in my way...)


deborah grabien - Dec 01, 2004 10:57:35 am PST #8397 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Speaking of which...

Inverted

My first impression of him is not nearly so important to me as his of me.

Mine: a thickening of blood, a sense of urgency, need, want, something beyond words. Physically there were long beautiful fingers, brown eyes taking up half his face, thin chestnut-blonde hair, a voice I would never lose again, a smile that owned my heart.

His: I know because, shameless and young and insatiably curious, I asked him. Tell me what you thought, that first time you saw me? Please?

He smiled, and brushed his lips against my hair, and told me. I thought, here comes something different.


deborah grabien - Dec 01, 2004 11:26:45 am PST #8398 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

TEPPY: what's wrong with the livejournal GWW? It's been giving me "no posting in here, read only" for a good 45 minutes now.


Pix - Dec 01, 2004 5:08:41 pm PST #8399 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

quasi-Orwellian numberslut


Brynn - Dec 01, 2004 8:35:43 pm PST #8400 of 10001
"I'd rather discuss the permutations of swordplay, with an undertone of definite allusion to sex." Beverly, offering an example of when your characters give you 'tude.

If they had been girlfriends and eavesdropped on “Soul Train” together, she might have said “Ain’t no thing.”

This line is brilliant. The idea of "eavesdropping" is a perfect kind of nod/way to call attention to appropriation: sharp, but not crass.

I often wonder how one sticks to their politics in fiction... I stuggle with it, especially in humorous pieces --my humour is decidely non pc-- but ultimately the risque joke seems to quash my pocofemsensibilities.


Connie Neil - Dec 02, 2004 4:50:50 am PST #8401 of 10001
brillig

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Topic!Cindy - Dec 02, 2004 5:09:32 am PST #8402 of 10001
What is even happening?

Thanks, skipper.


erikaj - Dec 02, 2004 5:41:23 am PST #8403 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

My mother still says that and "copacetic" sometimes from her Don Cornelius phase. My writing always has political messages in it, sometimes when I don't think I want them.ETA: Whew, just under the limit...anybody want to beta...if you can do it in the next few days, mind you, because it's got to have time to be fixed and get to the City of The BrokenHearted by mail. But I don't mind telling y'all that I am most impressed with myself for even having a mostly-finished story this length in this time frame, coming from nothing just a few days ago. Right this minute, I feel like I rule.(Won't last, that's why I'm documenting it.)


deborah grabien - Dec 02, 2004 7:22:30 am PST #8404 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

erika, send. I'll do my damndest to get to yours - and Susan's - later today, after my neuro appointment.