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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Nov 30, 2004 3:28:25 pm PST #8369 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Sometimes it doesn't come up until they offer to buy it.


deborah grabien - Nov 30, 2004 3:33:49 pm PST #8370 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Just make sure you know what rights you're keeping and what rights you're selling. When the magazine expresses a desire to buy, ask them then.


Pix - Nov 30, 2004 3:35:02 pm PST #8371 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Excellent, thank you all for the good advice.

(BTW, thanks for saying "when" rather than "if", Deb! You just made me grin.)


Susan W. - Nov 30, 2004 4:00:28 pm PST #8372 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Can someone with access to a better dictionary than I have get me dates for the following words?

  • hussy
  • strumpet
  • uppity

I really should add a good dictionary to my wish list.


sumi - Nov 30, 2004 4:23:22 pm PST #8373 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I don't have a date but my dictionary says that hussy is from Middle English "huswife".

It says that "strumpet" is also Middle English but connected with OF (Old French?) strupe from L stuprum - dishonor.

Both of my dictionaries just say that "uppity" is colloquial.


Susan W. - Nov 30, 2004 4:34:40 pm PST #8374 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'm pretty sure I can get by with strumpet, but I'm not sure that uppity existed, nor that hussy had acquired its slutty definition, in 1809. Which is too bad, especially WRT uppity. There's no other single word that conveys the same meaning.


Pix - Nov 30, 2004 4:43:45 pm PST #8375 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Susan, this is a great online etymology dictionary. I didn't check all of the words, but "uppity" is definitely out:

uppity: 1880, originally used by blacks of other blacks felt to be too self-assertive.
However, it continues...
The parallel British variant uppish (1678) originally meant "lavish;" the sense of "conceited, arrogant" being first recorded 1734.

So...maybe that's a possibility?


Pix - Nov 30, 2004 4:49:54 pm PST #8376 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Okay, I lied. Here are the others:

hussy,1530: "mistress of a household, housewife," alt. of M.E. husewif, from huse "house" + wif "wife." Gradually broadened to mean "any woman or girl," and by 1650 was being applied to "a woman or girl who shows casual or improper behavior," and a general derogatory sense had overtaken the word by 19c. "It is common to use housewife in a good, and huswife or hussy in a bad sense." [Johnson]

strumpet: c.1327, of uncertain origin. One theory connects it with L. stuprata, fem. pp. of stuprare "have illicit sexual relations with."

Looks like both of those would be fine.


Susan W. - Nov 30, 2004 5:11:00 pm PST #8377 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Thanks, Kristin! I've bookmarked that site for future reference. And "hussy" and "strumpet" stay, but "uppity little baggage" is becoming "shameless little baggage who wouldn't keep to her place."


Pix - Nov 30, 2004 5:45:38 pm PST #8378 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

No worries, Susan!

So now I have another dumb question for the writing hivemind. I'm familiar with screenwriting and novel submission format, but how should I format a magazine submission?

Double-spaced? Single? Left-justified, indented paragraphs or straight justified with extra spaces between each one? I want to make sure this looks completely professional.