Wash: I mean, I'm the one she swore to love, honor and obey. Mal: Listen... She swore to obey? Wash: Well, no, not...

'War Stories'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Connie Neil - Nov 14, 2004 3:43:39 pm PST #8055 of 10001
brillig

The heroine was in a relationship with a severely abusive man, but she was finally able to walk away--true, she'd just gotten engaged to someone else, but one takes one's impetuses where one can. If I did the scene where she walks away from him, and the villain is apparently calm and supportive while she's terribly nervous but determined, it should make people wonder what's up with that. Plus if people think she's gotten married, readers shouldn't automatically realize it's her when she turns up single again. This could work.

Hey, I could actually get back to that and finish it. The first draft's been done, but the beginning has been an unholy mess and doesn't match the second half. At the very least, a prologue will knock the dust off of it.


Liese S. - Nov 14, 2004 4:11:53 pm PST #8056 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

The whole thread is being productive! Yay, creativity!


Connie Neil - Nov 14, 2004 4:15:54 pm PST #8057 of 10001
brillig

Has the world turned enough, you think, that a thriller set in the financial centers of New York could/could not get away with a passing reference to 9/11? The heroine of my novel works on Wall Street, and I was thinking she could say in a melancholy moment that she was in the office that day and remembered the wall of debris that went by. Would that be gauche?


Susan W. - Nov 14, 2004 4:20:14 pm PST #8058 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Hmm. You're writing it now. I don't know how fast or slow your write, but we'll say for the sake of argument you finish it sometime in the middle of 2005. You edit it and send it out to an editor or agent, who accepts it in mid-2006 for publication sometime in 2007.

IOW, I think you could leave it out.


Polter-Cow - Nov 14, 2004 4:21:59 pm PST #8059 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

IOW, I think you could leave it out.

If it's only a token reference, of course. If it serves some sort of thematic purpose, I don't think your method is gauche.


Pix - Nov 14, 2004 5:17:56 pm PST #8060 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Thank you so much, P-C and Anne, for valuable feedback. Anne, it's so funny that you made the suggestion you did about the opening, because that is exactly the section I have moved around to various places in Prologue at least ten different times. It used to start with that first line "The Archive should have been wet" etc., but then I was worried I was waiting too long to get into the "action" and that character.

What would you think about starting again with "The Archive should have been wet" and moving everything preceding that to right before the paragraph starting with "The Archive felt like a beast to her after all these years"?


Polter-Cow - Nov 14, 2004 5:26:23 pm PST #8061 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What would you think about starting again with "The Archive should have been wet" and moving theverything preceding that to right before the paragraph starting with "The Archive felt like a beast to her after all these years"?

The book is called The Archive. I don't think it's wrong to start with the words "The Archive." Also the word "should," which makes the reader go, "THEN WHY ISN'T IT, DAMMIT?"

I think that might work, but you might want to fiddle with the description in such a way that it intimates the existence of a character, because while it's cool to start with a description of the Archive, you don't want to make the reader think the entire prologue is going to be like a history lesson. Maybe it's already there in the tone, though. Re-reading those bits, I like them more than I first did. The mystifiedness of it all. The inability to believe its existence. Which could only come from a character or a personalized narrator, either of which should be enough for the reader to turn the page. I like narrators.

You're welcome for the comments. Glad they were helpful.


Pix - Nov 14, 2004 5:35:47 pm PST #8062 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Pssst, P-C...wanna see Ch. 1? That might give you a clearer idea of one of the two main protagonists. Also, it would clarify how the narrative voice will generally sound.

(comments wouldn't be necessary unless you wanted to give them--this isn't an attempt to make you do more work for me, promise!)


Polter-Cow - Nov 14, 2004 5:47:11 pm PST #8063 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Gimme!


Pix - Nov 14, 2004 5:51:19 pm PST #8064 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I think that might work, but you might want to fiddle with the description in such a way that it intimates the existence of a character, because while it's cool to start with a description of the Archive, you don't want to make the reader think the entire prologue is going to be like a history lesson. Maybe it's already there in the tone, though.

Yep, that's been my biggest issue. I wanted to start with the mystery (and establish the room as a character, in a sense), but I also didn't want it to feel like a history lesson. Trust me, I'm actually doing a lot better! One of my earlier drafts was about twice as long because I had written all kinds of history into it that didn't need to be there.

Gimme!

You got it.