It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Ginger - Nov 12, 2004 5:24:02 pm PST #7995 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Deb, odds are either kerosene or none at all. I found this in a history [link] of Liberal, Kansas, which is a little town just north of the Oklahoma panhandle. (It was the closest "big" town to Guymon, Oklahoma, where my parents lived for several years.):

In 1899 Liberal installed its first city lights. They consisted of coal-oil lamps placed on street corners on eight-foot poles and were the pride of the city. Local people bragged about being able to read their mail under the street lights. In 1908 a few electric street lights were added into the business district but homes continues to use coal-oil or kerosene lamps at that time.


deborah grabien - Nov 12, 2004 5:27:32 pm PST #7996 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Perfect! Thanks, Ginger - it means one small tweak and I leave it at "lack of light", rather than "light from a specific source."

This damned story is sitting at just about six thousand words. Yikes.

Want to beta? Anyone?


Ginger - Nov 12, 2004 5:34:01 pm PST #7997 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I haven't gotten the last thing back to you, Deb, but I could probably look at it tomorrow.


Anne W. - Nov 12, 2004 5:35:42 pm PST #7998 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Deb, I'd be happy to look at it. Tomorrow a.m. okay for return?


erikaj - Nov 12, 2004 5:38:29 pm PST #7999 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I'm glad to know...well, ok, not glad, but I am glad it's not just me finding herself writing things she doesn't know.


deborah grabien - Nov 12, 2004 5:45:34 pm PST #8000 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Ginger, Anne, will send in a bit - I may try to do a bit more work on it, since I'm so close to the end.

erika, my darling, if you want to watch the internet wife squirm like a meal worm in an iguana's terrarium? Watch me when I get started on "Cruel Sister". The UXB stuff is a piece of cake compared to the architecture research I have to do for this one; Ringan's consulting with Penny's brother and megawealthy wife to build wife's dream home, a replica Tudor manor using as many authentic touches as possible, but with all modern conveniences.

I know nothing about architecture.


Susan W. - Nov 12, 2004 5:47:34 pm PST #8001 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Deb, I'll be happy to take a look at it sometime in the next 24 hours or so.

After dinner I have to pull myself away from figuring out what Anna does with her pistol and get back to Lucy. Earlier this week I gave myself a swift kick in the rear by reminding myself I told an editor and agent the ms would be ready by the end of December. So I figure it's high time to learn to write to deadline, because I'd sure hate to not be finished on Jan. 2 and have one of them ask for the full.


Deena - Nov 12, 2004 5:50:32 pm PST #8002 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Ginger, my mom was born in Liberal, her brother in Hooker. My mom lived in Guymon and her mom lived there for years. Nick was born in Guymon and I lived there for a couple of years before moving on. Wow, small world.

I would love to beta, but am still swamped with the paying work. I'm sorry Deb. I hate not having time for everything I want to do.


Ginger - Nov 12, 2004 5:57:18 pm PST #8003 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

t Cue the Twilight Zone music

That's a really small world. My dad was head of the beef department at the Swift plant in Guymon in 1970-72. I lived there the summer of 1971 and took classes at Panhandle State.


deborah grabien - Nov 12, 2004 6:00:23 pm PST #8004 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Deena, I am all about the paying work, believe me.