LOL! I WILL BUY THAT BOOK! Not to mention i'll drink to it as well! You just tell me when and where victor!

Kiss Me Jane.

kmj, have you not read Gatson & Zweerink? They've published in detail about the Bronze community, and are working on chapters written by the community members.

Michael Adams' Slayer Slang details how the fans incorporated the linguistic nuances of BtVS into the community and popular culture.

If you read Slayage you'll find an assload of published pieces on the fandom, and the shows, including a work by Asim Ali that's pretty interesting.

I think what struck me about your chapter selection is that it's similar to mine. I talk about tryng to save Firefly, the PBPs and WHAR, trying to save the Bronze, how Buffistas stayed together through three boards, crossing the fan barrier and developing friendships with my heroes, blah blah blah.

I think the voice is different, in part because as you said, you've been participating in a Buffy community for two years and are excited and very positive about it all. For example, you have a bit about how to "save" Angel, but by the end, I stopped watching it and was pleading with the campaigners to stop trying to save it, because, hello, not happening. I have a bit about that in there, but it's probably not worth keeping.

I'm a cranky old lady, I love my fandom like I love my family. I bitch about it constantly but would shiv some stranger in the gut for talking the same trash.

Have you spoken with any old school fans? PBPc, or any of the writers who have participated in online communities? Apollo-Interactive?

I ask because the Bronze is the granddaddy of Buffy communities. They survived a shut down, and was the home for some famous scraps between writers and fans...and Pruittgate.

How is that represented? Am I asking too many questions? I do that. I'm annoying.

LOL! No you are not annoying!

Some of what you posted I had heard of or researched and some of which I had not. The problem is for my style of book I COULD go on and on about specifics however the book would turn into an 800 pager instead of 300+. That would end up costing the readers a fortune to buy and really it's not that important for me to touch on everything (remember I have biographies, show summaries and episode guides as well - for both shows). Trust me, I would love to, but I finally taught myself to let go and let others tell the specifics (a perfect example would be you). Remember this is a "Dummies" Style guide, which means that it guides. It gives an introduction to each chapter, the how-to's, the links, and fan comments and opinions as well as mine. That's about all I could fit into each chapter in order to get what I was looking for without going overboard on length. If we have some similar ideas then maybe a good idea would be to check my book out and see what things I touched on and what I didn't. This way you can cover more areas, that have yet to be discussed in print.

On top of all of that, I also have the cast/band interviews to include in the book. Because this was a collective pool project, the actors that submitted, did so because they knew this book was about the fans. They wanted to reach out to them as the two shows have now ended, and let them know what they have been doing since. We don't know how long the BTVS/Angel market will have value, so before it was too late, I decided to give them a voice, to give fans a voice and to express myself.

On a side note, if ever you are at a con that I'm appearing at come talk to me. I'll let you take a look at my book (without charging you, lol) and we can chat about all of this if you want. The only one I have scheduled right now is Jacks or Better in Las Vegas (this January).

Kiss Me Jane.

On a side side note - MY GOD MY POSTS ARE LONG! Sorry all!

In an effort to slay the writer's block demon, here's one for the lies challenge. Exactly 100 words, too, which I almost never manage.

Temporary (Anna)

It’s only temporary. Utterly outside the bounds of ordinary life, ordinary time. When she must, she’ll put it behind her.

But for now she sleeps lightly, waiting for the soft rap at her window in the darkest hours of the night. For loving, hard and fierce and silent, so desperately silent as she bites back all the cries and screams that fill her to the bursting, because too many ears are too near. And after, as precious, lying skin-to-skin whispering together, trust and camaraderie like nothing she’s ever known before.

But it’s only temporary. What other choice does she have?

Liquid Plummer brain snake vibes to get of the blockage, Susan.

Remember this is a "Dummies" Style guide

The more you describe it, the more confident I am that we're not writing anything similar. My book is about what a fucking dummy *I* am, not so much assuming the reader needs a guide to do all the insane-o shit I've done, but a guide through the insane-o shit.

Victor, iffn you're around, I'd like to talk to you a bit about the interview you did with Tim re: the Firefly cancellation. I just rediscovered it, and there's a bit in there I could use a quote from you about. Though, it's 1am on your coast. Damn.

Liquid Plummer brain snake vibes to get of the blockage, Susan.

See, the stores should totally sell Liquid Plumber brain snakes for writers. Right next to the cans of whomp'em for athletes.

I'm with Allyson on the snaking out of the writerly stuff, but I'm still enchanted by imagining Liquid Plummer. Christopher? Amanda?

Lots of nice hot Plummers out there, with or without buttcracks.

And KMJ, best of luck with your book.

Christopher? Amanda?

I think they actually do spell it the hukd on foniks way. Cracks me up.

Now I'm envisioning both Amanda and Christopher with loopy, "braaaaaaaaains!" smiles on their faces, holding out bottles of this stuff...

Oh, in other news, especially for P-C and Bev - not going to do White Sands, because a) radiation is sort of overused and I don't want anyone to go in expecting science fiction (it isn't) and b) have something far better and far scarier, that I can actually tie into the Hollywood community in the fifties, which is my timeframe for the grandparents of the kids with nasty anemia.

Me for druuuuuuuuuuuuuuugs. Ah, Avonex nights...

Dudes, I want to do some LA signings and stuff. Who should I bug?

I never even noticed that Allyson said "Plummer" instead of "Plumber." Strange is the brain's ability to see what it thinks is there rather than what actually is.