Thanks, so much.

It just seemed a little silly to leave it up when I saw that Deb didn't want to talk about it and had, in fact, left the thread. It feels self-indulgent to leave a post to someone who was vehemently opposed to reading it just because I felt good about the points I made, especially as Deb and I are friends and I don't want to damage that. I have really been working on not arguing for the sake of arguing.

You don't look crazy by yourself ever. I always enjoy reading your posts. Also? I think you'll be a hell of an English teacher. Good luck with that!

I really did love what you said.

Me, three.

Count me in on the Kristin bandwagon.

t initially typed Kristen, but I've been reading Beaches and know better

You don't look crazy by yourself ever.

Oh, I am bona fide crazy, with a hand stamp and everything (a la The Simpsons). It gives me layers.

I missed the Kristin post (sniff) and I just lurk here, but I wanted to fifth or sixth the "hey, that was an interesting discussion but could we have it in Literary?", and suggest that there be drabbling and writer-talk. And that Deb should come back.

Hey, look. Flying salamanders! Okay, off for thai food. Drabble away.

Well, a bit late to the party, but I'll just say I'm pretty much Deb in this conversation.

Sorry if it seems to dis anyone who's really into the detailed analysis lit crit, but basically it makes my eyeballs itch.

To have to justify why I like or think about a work of fiction intellectually doesn't work for me. I respond viscerally and emotionally. And that's the kind of critique I would look for here in GWW.

I get that some people really enjoy that, and that's what I think Literary's focused on the last time or two I looked.

I've skimmed over most of this argument, in part because what I've read cuts to the very heart of why I don't go into the Literary thread myself, and would not enjoy book clubs. So I leave that to people who's brains work that way and find enjoyment in books by doing the detailed analysis that leaves me cold by its very nature..

I do not believe I have to justify doing differently.

Anyone expecting me to do so will have to live with being thought arrogant.

I do not believe I have to justify doing differently.

I missed the part where anyone was asking for such a justification.

I've been confused for the last 20 or so posts.

I understand I'm not very bright.

I half-regret going into this, but only half. Granted, an in-depth discussion of literary criticism is best held in Literary or the book club. However, what is seen as the dividing line between litcrit and trying to analyze a piece of writing in this thread in order to help the author improve it?

This isn't meant as any sort of incitement, I was just mulling over hte points presented earlier.

I was wondering the same, connie. Sure, when you give feedback here you're face to face (relatively speaking) with the author, but it seems a fine line.