Murk: But you're a God! The Sacred Glorificus! Glory: I'm a God in exile. Far from the Hellfires of Home and sharing my body with an enemy that stabs my boys in their fleshy little stomachs!

'Dirty Girls'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Liese S. - Sep 10, 2004 2:47:12 pm PDT #6530 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

ancizar

I don't believe in martyrs. In the end, we all die useless. Why should I dry my eyes, dry my eyes, over and over again?

Ancizar Giraldo was a farmer. They tell me he died. I don't know which side killed him. But I know it was me.

I live in the comfort developed by aggression. I eat the fruits of our oppression. I create the environment that fosters addiction. Diamonds for Africa, cocaine for Columbia, oil for Iraq. I know it was me.

Ring the church bells, carry his body over the river. I won't remember. I won't forget.


deborah grabien - Sep 10, 2004 2:49:16 pm PDT #6531 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Liese, you just killed me.

I'd been listening to "Sympathy for the Devil" in the car coming home, and was actually singing under myt breath when I read your piece:

"I shouted out, who killed the Kennedys? When after all, it was you and me..."


Beverly - Sep 10, 2004 2:50:50 pm PDT #6532 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh my, Liese. Poking at prickly places.


Deena - Sep 10, 2004 3:07:23 pm PDT #6533 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

That's amazing, Liese.


Liese S. - Sep 10, 2004 8:12:55 pm PDT #6534 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Well, you know, I'm feeling rather prickly. Prickly with rage, I suppose.

And thanks.


Susan W. - Sep 10, 2004 9:01:03 pm PDT #6535 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Wow, Liese.


Susan W. - Sep 10, 2004 9:42:15 pm PDT #6536 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

And for my mememe writers' quandary of the evening....

Having gotten extensive expert feedback (including from our own AmyLiz) on my first novel (Lucy), I've concluded that it's beautifully written, but has enough conceptual flaws that it probably won't sell as is, and I'm not sure I'd even want it to, because it's not the best work I'm capable of. The quandary is what to do about it:

1. I could do nothing. Few authors sell their first novels anyway. I stick it in a box under my bed (actually it already is in a box under the love seat in the living room) and work on making my next novel better. Thing is, I'm already excited about writing Anna, and about doing preliminary research and drabbles here and there for my next (working title Heart of Oak). Fixing Lucy might slow my momentum. It's not like I don't have enough on my plate, between baby and novels and freelancing.

2. I could fix it. I just had a couple of ideas that I think would strengthen it immensely. And since Anna is a sequel to Lucy (though in keeping with romance tradition I'm making sure it makes sense as a standalone), if I rework the one and finish the other, I'll have not one but two strong books to offer editors--and, as a bonus, they'll be connected! Also, I poured a lot of time and a big chunk of my heart into Lucy. It seems a shame not to do what it takes to make it a marketable novel. The question is how to add that to the mix of everything else I've got going on without losing all the lovely momentum I've got going on Anna.


Beverly - Sep 10, 2004 11:56:09 pm PDT #6537 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Susan, In your position I would:

Finish Anna while outlining and making notes for Oak. While you're shopping Anna fix Lucy, continuing to make notes for Oak. When Lucy's ready to be shopped, you'll have Oak half-done, and probably entirely skip the 1st draft stage.

Also, if you get stale on one project, you'll have something else to work on till the spark re-ignites.


Susan W. - Sep 11, 2004 6:30:38 am PDT #6538 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I got maybe five hours of sleep last night, between lying awake an hour after I went to bed thinking about the changes I could make, and then waking up an hour before the alarm and thinking some more.

Beverly, I like your suggestion, though there's this part of me that wants to fix Lucy NOW, because I've got this writers conference in three weeks, and it just breaks my heart to think of not having something to market to the editors and agents there. I'm not so insane as to think I could completely rework a 100,000-word novel in three weeks, but I could certainly manage the first three chapters, and that's as much of a partial as anyone ever wants. Then I'd keep working at it so that if anyone asked for the full, hopefully I'd have it ready by then.

I know that's crazy talk, but, but....the editors and agents, they're RIGHT THERE. And if they work with what your write at all, they ALWAYS ask for a partial, and you get to put "requested material" on it and bypass the slushpile! t /impatient

OK. Anyway. Since the changes I'm planning for Lucy impact Anna, the least I'm going to do is sit down today and do a rough outline of the new Lucy. And then, well, we'll see.

For now I need to feed a baby and get ready for the Seattle RWA meeting--maybe I can get some more ideas there.


Beverly - Sep 11, 2004 9:33:50 am PDT #6539 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I speak as a complete publishing amateur, of course. But I know what happens when I slog away at something while another project is on fire in my head. The work I do on the primary project is dull, and by the time I get to the second, the fire's dimmed or gone out. So I say, let Anna simmer for a bit and work on Lucy, at least short-term.