The Great Write Way
A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.
Susan, it isn't enough for me. But I'm not at all familiar with your genre, which is why I don't trust my comments on your work. So please feel free to disregard me.
DH thinks I can throw in a phrase here and there that'll make it clear without having to be pedantic--maybe a reference to Bonaparte, and to how war-weary the riders are since most of them have been there for several years, etc.
Another point of contention from tonight's group:
I describe the hero through the heroine's eyes, and we discussed how to strike the right balance of enabling the readers to form a mental picture without it coming across as a laundry list of features like a description of a MarySue in a poorly written first fanfic effort by a starry-eyed teen. Everyone in my writers group wants me to have Jack remind Anna of her brother James, the hero of my previous effort, since I used some similar adjectives to describe them (i.e. wiry and strong-boned).
To me that means I need to step away from my pet adjectival shorthand for "manly hottie with the right build for a Regency wardrobe (mmm, tight pants)", because the Jack and James who live in my head don't look much alike beyond both having long noses. And I think it'd be really hard to have Anna think of Jack resembling her brother without it being incestuous and creepifying. Also, I'm trying very hard to make this work as a stand-alone so that I can sell it regardless of what happens withthe first book. But they think that since she's not yet at the level of being consciously attracted to him, to have her be reminded of her brother would be a nice way to show that she finds him comfortable and appealing.
Ew, I agree with you and not your group on him reminding her of her brother. That way lies ickiness. He could remind her, enough for her to be inclined to trust him, of someone else she's known, though, and felt comfortable with. Surely there was a neighbor, or a friend's father, even a merchant or a groom who showed a bit of awareness--anyone but a relative.
But I do very much agree with Dylan on
how war-weary the riders are since most of them have been there for several years
and also how routine this sort of thing would become to them. They're just trudging through it by rote, which is why the killing shot is so shocking. The way it's written (although P-C was all charmed by "utterly surprised"), I don't think it comes off as wry, I think it comes off as sarcarstic. But then again, me, with my scant knowledge of the genre.
But also? I think the ref to Boney would be superfluous.
I agree with Bev. I'd want more, also "tallest and handsomest" just... doesn't sound right. Too glib, perhaps? I can't live that story. "Dazzling blues?" How long have they been on patrol? I would think they ought to be dirty and tired and not paying attention because of it, not dress parade snappy and startled there's a war on. (I've forgotten his name, so used Jack in my "what I'd do" example below.)
Spain, June 1811
"Captain Jack, sir?"
The captain finally looked up, and frowned. "Yes, what, Macready? I wasn't attending."
"Thinkin' about a little slap and tickle, I'll bet. I know I am."
Jack's mouth tightened. "We are his majesty's dragoons, not Navy riff-raff. Let's act like it."
"Yes sir." The mounted patrolman wheeled his horse around, completely forgetting what he'd been going to ask at the unfairness of the reprimand. They'd been at this same patrol for days and not a single Frenchy in sight, finally about to get a little break and the Captain still had to act like he had a rod up his backside.
A shot rang out. For a few moments all was bedlam as the soldiers struggled with startled horses and tried to pinpoint the location of the sniper. He was gone, but so was Captain Jack. Macready was first off his horse. "Damn." He spit in the dust at his feet. "Never think ill of a soldier. You're likely thinking ill of the dead."
Not that you should use any of this, but I think it's easier to get into it. Of course, your style is different too, so I don't know if something like this would work with the rest of the novel. And if you hate it, just pretend I didn't say anything.
Drabble #21:
You knew you loved her (if you hadn't before) the moment you walked into her yard that April night. From the invitation, you had expected the first cook-out of spring, or possibly a bonfire.
This party, though, had a sole purpose, well beyond beer and grilled meat. Gathered around a small embankment were 20 biology majors, all leaning down to peer at the dirt, flashlights in one hand, beers in the other. They waited expectantly, jumping up and cheering when the first of the 17-year cicadas finally emerged.
Her cheers were more racous than all the others.
You were in love.
I'm starting to feel like a broken record, but... this is what keeps coming into my head.
Amen
Behind us is the peach orchard, and the breeze blowing through it brings the smell of new growth. No peaches yet, it’s too early, but the promise of them.
To the right, oak trees stand twisted, sturdy, leaving dappled light scattered on the ground.
Down the hill below our feet there’s a pond, and if you watch closely, you can see small silver fish jump toward the sunlight, snapping insects from the air.
We look down, at artificial turf over a gaping black hole under a smooth brown box, and we wait for the officiate to say the final amen.
Susan, it's morning and I'm still jetlagged, but a question or two.
First off, that "nary" threw me. For some reason, I associate that as purely Americanese; was it brought to the US as a term by Irish immigrants, or something? Because I can't recall ever hearing anyone in the UK use it, ever.
Second thing, strictly a me thing, but on the description, this:
dressed in dazzling fur-trimmed blues that marked them as British dragoons
OK, you know your bugbear about the misuse of "free rrein"? I have a bugbear, about redundancies. Do we need to be told that they're dressed in the dazzling fur-trimmed blues? They surely aren't out riding naked, so we know they're dressed. It's like saying someone has a smile on their face; where on earth else would the smile be? IOW, the "dressed in" in that context is redundant, and becomes filler. It reads, to me, like the author inserting description, instead of painting a scene. I'd go for terser, rather than filler: The mounted patrol, in the dazzling fur-trimmed blues that marked them as British dragoons...
Third question: why are they surprised? (I am not in love with that "utterly" in there, BTW - it sounds like a drawing-room word, not a battlefield word, in that context, and it made me blink a bit.) If they're a scouting patrol, wouldn't they assume there were French in the area somewhere, or at least be aware of the likelihood?
Not sure if any of that's clear. I am thumpy-headed headache jetlag woman this morning. Forgive if rambling.
I'm a little embarrassed...this wasn't supposed to be a ficlet, but I guess a group of people looking down means one thing to me, anymore. Bear with me.
“So, what do you think?”
“Don’t know. Suicide?”
The detectives smile grimly. The victim would have to be Plastic Man to do that to himself, given that his back has a moonroof now.
“Yeah. I’m sure he shot himself in his own back.” The woman detective said. Fun was fun but she had a streak going. She’s even been afraid to wear a different shirt to work and she’s gone back to touching her crucifix again. Luck was funny. Not that she needed any. But just in case.
Her partner doesn’t want to let the joke go. “Hey, it could happen. He could be the Human Pretzel. You know...one of those guys...”
“Contortionist.” Kay thought Munch came up with that pretty fast, even for an intellectual. She twists her mouth at him.
‘Where do you get this crap from, huh?” These guys give her such headaches. If she was at K-Mart all she’d have to do was pretend some baby was cute, maybe look at an engagement ring.
“ Would you believe vast and wide-ranging experience?”
“Depends.”
“Really? What have you heard?”
“Hey, you guys...the only stiff thing I wanna think of right now is Mr. Bodine here.”
“He’s talking to you.” Kay admonished. “I don’t get...stiff. God, I’m stupid. That sounded stupid."
“After this is over, you guys should just fuck and get it over with. But I gotta tell you, Howie, you can do better.”
“Pot. Kettle. Black.” Munch thought he heard Kay mumble.
“What?”
“Nothing. Let’s flip this puppy.”
Also, Jesse, if/when I ever finish, I'd trust you to beta me cause we like the same kinds of mysteries and stuff.
erika, you know what I want, and want desperately?
I want you to craft your own detective/s. I want your take on them. I want you to write them, hardboiled and tender and tough and snarky and just the way you're writing the H:LOTS detectives, but I want them to be yours.
Because you do it so very very well, damn it. And you can't publish or get paid using these guys. And anyway, I want to see where your characters go, how they eat and sleep and kill and catch and hump and all the rest of it.
Write me a detective, your detective. Me want now.