Joyce: Dawn, you be good. Xander: We will. Just gonna play with some matches, run with scissors, take candy from some guy, I don't know his name.

'Beneath You'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Beverly - Jul 22, 2004 9:00:59 am PDT #5839 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

(grinning) Research. Of course!


Astarte - Jul 22, 2004 10:19:14 am PDT #5840 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Such devotion, Susan. You're an inspiration...


Gris - Jul 22, 2004 2:06:51 pm PDT #5841 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I'm a hormone bomb. This drabble will be written, as I go, in one pass. Editing and word-counting is for losers.

I lace up my shoe, wondering if she will like them. But why, I think, do I care? I know that she likes me, I know I like her, so why do I worry about shoes? My mind is stubborn, though, and I wonder if she'll like my pants. I know it doesn't matter, I know she won't care, but still... I wonder. My pants, my shirt, my clean-and-fresh smell...will she like them? Will she see me, and judge me, and find me to be worthy? Or will she see me as my mind sees me - ugly, awkward, and strange?

Stop it! Relax! You know that she won't! You're good, you're nice, she likes you! She does!

I lace up my other shoe, and I wonder... Will she like them?


deborah grabien - Jul 22, 2004 2:20:26 pm PDT #5842 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Oh, dear, poor Nova. But a fun drabble.

Ginger, yours was major with the ouchie.


Susan W. - Jul 22, 2004 9:22:26 pm PDT #5843 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Yet another question for the writerly hivemind:

What do y'all see as the ethics of improving someone's writing when they're trying to land a position that requires writing skill? I know that in my resume/cover letter business, I'd refuse to edit or write materials for someone with poor language skills if they were applying for a job that requires a lot of writing. Making them look like a good writer would be unfair to both them and the employer. So far it hasn't been an issue--most of the people I work with are perfectly good writers who just need a little help marketing themselves.

But as I look for more ways to earn money, I've stumbled upon a gray area or two--editing college admissions essays and being a book doctor. Part of me thinks that if you're not a good enough writer to turn out an essay that'll earn you admission to an elite university without help, you have no business going there. But DH thinks that's like saying it's wrong to take a Kaplan course to improve your SAT or to hire a hitting coach to improve your chances of getting signed by a baseball team. And as for book doctoring, I feel like it's OK for nonfiction, because maybe the author is the world expert on some fascinating topic, but needs help communicating it. But with fiction, it just feels different somehow.

Thoughts?


deborah grabien - Jul 22, 2004 9:54:47 pm PDT #5844 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

(blink)

Befuddled here. Someone is applying specifically to a writing school, is writing and submitting a piece of fiction in order to get into the school, and is asking you to doctor it?


Susan W. - Jul 22, 2004 9:56:44 pm PDT #5845 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I guess I'm not as good a writer as I think, if I was that unclear!

No, it's two different ideas for how I could earn money--work for a place that hires Ivy-educated freelancers to help kids with their Ivy admissions essays, and look for work as a book doctor.


Nutty - Jul 23, 2004 4:08:38 am PDT #5846 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I was going to say. Hired-gun book doctoring, once the contract has been signed, no problem (and happens all the time).

For admissions essays and other "I am presenting myself as a good writer" items, where marketing, not fulfillment of contract is concerned, I'd say you are obligated to work as a teacher of good writing, and not as a "doctor".

So, comments on a draft essay would be more like "This sentence is awkward; please rephrase to make the main idea clearer" rather than just rephrasing it for them. How does that strike you?


Jessica - Jul 23, 2004 5:10:33 am PDT #5847 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I agree with Nutty 100%.


deborah grabien - Jul 23, 2004 6:50:39 am PDT #5848 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I guess I'm not as good a writer as I think, if I was that unclear!

Heh. No, you weren't - I was befuddled with the tired. I read it again this morning and it make perfect sense. Anything I ask on a Thursday night is generally pre-Avonex, which means slightly blink-making.

And yes, what Nutty and Jessica said, I'm in total agreement.