Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Jul 02, 2004 12:27:26 pm PDT #5561 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Dani, whatever's easiest for you; it depends on how much commentary there is, really, and what form it takes. That is to say, if there are specific sections or paragraphs or whatnots that you think need massive revision, or clarifying, it might be easier to point me at them separately.

Nilly does hers by writing me a long wonderful stream of commentary in an email, as she's reading. Deena and Bev both make their comments using Track Changes in Word, although that method is a bit daunting when we're talking about a full-length novel.

If it's general stuff, a plain old email would be fine. But whatever causes you the minimum of grief to do.

BTW, you have my email address, yes? I'll check messages here, but I suspect my presence around b.org is going to diminish drastically.


deborah grabien - Jul 02, 2004 9:52:26 pm PDT #5562 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

OK, I wanna share.

I finished going over the first pass pages for Famous Flower of Serving Men. Here's the list of what needed fixing and what changes I wanted, as sent to my editor:

"Acknowledgments page: Copywriter's name TK
p. 11: change semi-colon to comma, as marked
p. 21: Upper case P on "penny", as marked
p. 30: change "lolly" to "money", as marked
p. 43: fix typo; "sprt" should be "sort", as marked
p. 73: add comma, as marked
p. 83: delete "taken", as marked
p. 128: remove marked accents
p. 139: delete "Sir", as marked
p. 156: "Boling broke" should be one word, "Bolingbroke", as marked
p. 162: "add paragraph break, as marked
p. 177: too many hyphens on this page, 8 total, 5 in first paragraph alone. Can we fix this?
p. 187: delete comma, as marked
p. 188: italicise "und" in the phrase "sturm und drang"
p. 199: delete paragraph break, as marked

That's it. That's the changes. No rewrites, no nothing. Done.

Jeepers. That was nice and easy...


Polter-Cow - Jul 03, 2004 1:50:05 am PDT #5563 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That's it? You write an entire book and that's it? Damn. You go, woman.


deborah grabien - Jul 03, 2004 7:34:24 am PDT #5564 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yup. This is the least amount of edits or changes or fixes other than Plainsong in my entire career. Weaver took a massive rewrite, not because Ruth didn't love the writing - she loves my voice, and actually used me as an example of it in a book she wrote an essay for - but because it was originally written partly in the present day, and partly in period, showing the events leading up to the crime: letting the reader know what the characters had to find out before the characters found out. She wanted it all in the modern era, all the emphasis on Ringan and Penny and the moderns; as she said, the interesting thing about the ghosts was that they were dead.

So I went "ping ping ping" and wrote 86 pages of new stuff in three days, and she bought it. Fun, major fun, and I loved the race. But work.

This one? The initial copy edit corrections were misplaced accent marks in some of the French (a result of my unfamiliarity with the "special characters" feature of the software), an inversion in a famous phrase - I'd written "When Adam delved and Eva span, who then was the gentleman?" because I always parse the damned thing musically, and it works better in my head than "...who was then the gentleman?" does. But it's historically wrong, and I was ashamed of myself, because I wrote one of my two theses on John of Gaunt, for fuck's sake - and some typos.

Painless. I have no clue how she's going to feel about Matty; when I get some genuine beta feedback, I can get started on looking at what's needed before my agent and editor see it.

Luckily? I'm early. Way, waaaay early. As in, eight months early.

edited for pre-coffee typing.


Deena - Jul 03, 2004 8:06:31 am PDT #5565 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Deb, I'm behind on everything. Early part of this week, Greg has time off and we're taking the kidlets to the zoo and scheduling some married couple time. I also have to do a little of the paid work that I promised or I'll just be embarrassed. I do plan, however, to have Matty back to you by next Sunday or so, if that's okay. If you need it sooner, let me know and I'll make it happen.


deborah grabien - Jul 03, 2004 8:18:45 am PDT #5566 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Deena, nope, that wasn't a nod-wink-ahem thing; the time away from the book is good for me. When I get stuff back, I have to go back into it and read it, both in parts and in whole, considering the feedback and seeing where things coincide. I like at least two weeks after finishing a book before I do that, to freshen my own take.

No probs, m'dear. No probs at all. Take your time, truly.


deborah grabien - Jul 03, 2004 8:20:20 am PDT #5567 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Oh, and did I mention that Plei's and ita's tied up together (no, I do not mean porn, thank you) beautifully in my head? ANd that this:

"Seven years of bad luck," she thought. "I wonder if I'll notice the difference."

nearly killed me?

Jeeeeeeeepers.


erikaj - Jul 03, 2004 8:23:52 am PDT #5568 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Me too... thought of tagging it.


deborah grabien - Jul 03, 2004 9:01:33 am PDT #5569 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Here's one, a genuine memory. The title says it all:

Loma Prieta

The first crash from the bedroom should have warned me.

Fifteen years later, I'm still unsure as to what fell first, and afterward? There was too much broken glass, from too many fragile former possessions, to sort out the chronology. I was in the living room; I'd just had a lump removed from one breast and I was groggy from the drugs.

But I heard that first crash, and lifted my head, in time to see the microwave cart go sailing by.

After that, it was straight into the kitchen doorway, feeling the ground heave, glass breaking all around me.


Sean K - Jul 03, 2004 11:26:17 am PDT #5570 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The title says it all:

No. Shit. Very nice, Deb.