You got fired, and you still hang around here like a big loser. Why can't he?

Cordelia ,'Chosen'


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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


sfmarty - Jan 27, 2004 3:11:49 pm PST #3282 of 10001
Who? moi??

Gus, don't forget the Buffistas who raised money to buy Firefly DVDs for the armed forces.

(yeh, I know that didn't lead to getting them made, but still....)


Consuela - Jan 27, 2004 3:19:37 pm PST #3283 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Gus, if you want to talk about the Farscape campaign, and the (utterly vital) importance of DVDs there, I'm around. Also, of the Buffistas, Mickie and Buggs are excellent sources for Farscape stuff. You can usually find them in the Boxed Set thread.

Anyway, if you want me, in about 2 hours (late for you, I know), I'll be on IM as grendelbabe.


Gus - Jan 27, 2004 3:31:39 pm PST #3284 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Gah! The Boxed Set thread! What could be more obvious? I am so completely fucking doomed. Thanks, 'Suela.

sfmarty: That one, I got. I made myself so malodorous among that crowd that the subject is seared into my memory. ;)


Theodosia - Feb 02, 2004 8:14:23 am PST #3285 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Some astute observations from Teresa Nielsen-Hayden about slushpiles and rejection. Susan W., pay particular attention, because I think the issues she talks about tend to substantiate that your MS is getting serious professional consideration of the "almost buy" variety.

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Susan W. - Feb 02, 2004 8:57:10 am PST #3286 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Thanks, Theodosia--I've bookmarked that for future reference and to take to my writers group.

And, yeah, it does sound like I'm making it into that top 1-5% with almost everyone who sees my manuscript. Which is not bad at all for a first novel, especially given that now that I'm looking at it after several months away, I can tell I submitted it before it was really ready. The story doesn't really pick up until Chapter Three, for example. And I knew that, and knew it was a strike against me, but I couldn't think of a way around it that would still get in all the backstory I need. Until now, after it's already been seen and rejected by three people. Now it's obvious--open with a dramatic incident currently in Ch. 3, flashback, flashback, a few dialogue explanations, and Bob's your uncle. Oops. From now on I'm going to do that thing all the books suggest where you set the manuscript aside for a month or two and give it one more edit before you submit. And I knew I should do that too, but I was afraid the contacts I'd made in early fall would go stale. Oh well.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2004 9:06:31 am PST #3287 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's a fascinating article.


erikaj - Feb 02, 2004 9:30:29 am PST #3288 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, it really was. I have gotten many "nice" rejections...the rejected part still hurt though, but I have to join her in being boggled at the not-poem recognizing poet, and the one that got hurt because the total love letter rejection was not (quite) an acceptance.


Susan W. - Feb 02, 2004 9:38:13 am PST #3289 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Yeah, I can't imagine reacting that way to the gushing love letter reception--being grumpy that I'd had the bad luck to just miss the cut, sure, but encouraged all the same, and I'd have had that manuscript back out the door as fast as I could get to the post office.

(I didn't recognize the poem immediately, either, but I'm not a poet and almost never read modern poetry.)


erikaj - Feb 02, 2004 9:46:10 am PST #3290 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I did, because I worked on the lit mag in high school, and if a poem was not about suicide or love gone wrong it was a knock-off of it. And I was a poet once...poets should know, it's iconic.(A little bit too iconic...I really do think.)


Holli - Feb 02, 2004 3:06:06 pm PST #3291 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Between high school litmag and bad fanfic, I figure I'm pretty well inured to the worst of what the publishing industry can throw at me. Which is good, because I fully expect to spend a lot of time with the slush pile if I intern for a publishing company.