I seen you without your clothes on before. Never thought I'd see you naked.

Mal ,'Trash'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Dec 08, 2003 7:56:29 pm PST #2978 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Susan, I just had to tell a very sweet man without the smallest inkling about how to write a novel that he simply wasn't ready for a writing group. And we are enjoying our chemistry (although we miss our original seventh rather intensely).

Sometimes you just have to say something.

Plei, Bev - insent to you both. There are typos in the last ten pages or so. Sorry about that....


Susan W. - Dec 08, 2003 8:01:00 pm PST #2979 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Sometimes you just have to say something.

I probably will. I feel a "how to do this nicely" email to J coming on, since she's turned into the impromptu leader of the group by virtue of being the most naturally outspoken of us all.

Because if I have to read another story about an aging washed-up rock star drinking himself to death and reflecting on how it was all inevitable because of Insert Parental Unit Here, I'm going to scream.


deborah grabien - Dec 08, 2003 8:08:37 pm PST #2980 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Someone should point out that Richard Burton is dead and Elizabeth Taylor is blonde now and "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" has already been filmed to perfection, thank you very much.


Susan W. - Dec 08, 2003 8:20:02 pm PST #2981 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, tonight J and I did suggest that it's nice for a story to actually have a plot of some kind, even if it's a character-based or atmospheric piece.


deborah grabien - Dec 08, 2003 8:25:41 pm PST #2982 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

You could always offer the lady a ritalin milkshake.

Or make her watch "Buckaroo Banzai", to see if she has any cracks in the existentialist glooooooom...

BTW, comment left in your lj, about alumni article, and general tone thereof.

I'm a little giddy. I just finished off a major chapter and sent it on and I feel like dancing.


Steph L. - Dec 09, 2003 5:52:24 pm PST #2983 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Yo, all my writing peeps!

(Ahem.)

BUST magazine, which I adore beyond all reason, has an article on how to start your own business, including a link to a website called Seattle Writergrrls. I originally was going to post it and flag it to the attention of the Seattle peeps, but in poking around the site (particularly the Resource page), this Web site is EXCELLENT for any writer, not just those is Seattle, and not just grrls.

Check it out, yo. Especially the Resource page.


Susan W. - Dec 09, 2003 7:18:52 pm PST #2984 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Thanks, Teppy!

I just re-wrote the "Alumni Voices" piece I posted friends-locked in my LiveJournal last night. It's nearly 500 words shorter, and, damn, I wish I could make my first drafts concise and spare myself all this word-butchery!


Theodosia - Dec 10, 2003 1:36:27 am PST #2985 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Up to page 78 in the rewrite (out of 298), which means that I'm approximately 1/4 done with the hand-revision phase. Only up to page ten in the committing the revisions to the electronic version (which means as I type in the corrections and read the resulting paragraph aloud, more changes get made) so there's a way to go there.


Susan W. - Dec 22, 2003 3:52:47 pm PST #2986 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Post-and-run on my way out the door to writers group--I'll be back in a few hours:

Just got my manuscript back from Marlene, the agent Deb recommended. She said, in part, "Thank you for allowing me to consider Lucy and Mr. Wright, which I've now had an opportunity to review. While there is a lot I like about this story and feel the writing is strong, I had problems with the pacing. Please keep in mind that publishing is a subjective business and another agent may well feel differently."

I'm not heartbroken because I figure in the big scheme of things, pacing is fixable, and while Marlene seems really wonderful, I kinda got the impression from some things she said here and there that she had a different niche in mind for me than the one I'm picturing for myself.

So I figure my task for the new year is to, first off, send queries/partials to such agencies as look appealing to me (because while I think she's right about the pacing, I don't think the problem is in the first chapter or three, so I feel safe letting people see that much right away), and meanwhile giving it another editing pass. Any ideas how to edit for pacing? I've got a good feel for polishing lines and scenes, but this is obviously more of a macro level issue.


Consuela - Dec 22, 2003 7:40:47 pm PST #2987 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Susan, do you have an outline? I know the novel's done, but outlining it now might give you a better sense of the rhythm of the action. If all the exciting stuff happens in one section, for instance, that might be an indication that you need to work to beef up some other sections or move some stuff around.