I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Sean K - Nov 18, 2003 9:08:14 am PST #2803 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I liked this particular section of the summary, Theo...

"Fraser, Fraser, Fraser." Fraser blinked.

::snerk::


Theodosia - Nov 18, 2003 9:11:45 am PST #2804 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Sean, I think the summarizing tool just looks for the really short sentences. Which, if this were technical writing, would be chapter headings and so on. But give it 55K of first person observation, and it kinda derails. Or else the algorithm has a thing for Paul Gross, which is a distinct possibility.


Sean K - Nov 18, 2003 9:15:05 am PST #2805 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Yeah, one imagines that the autosummary would provide something more coherent when culling a white paper, or something to that effect. It also seems to be making an assumption that the most frequently appearing word in the passage is the subject of the paper.

Or else the algorithm has a thing for Paul Gross, which is a distinct possibility.

This also seems to be a possibility.


§ ita § - Nov 18, 2003 9:20:38 am PST #2806 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Or else the algorithm has a thing for Paul Gross, which is a distinct possibility.

It would be the most sensible thing Microsoft ever did.


Liese S. - Nov 18, 2003 7:23:00 pm PST #2807 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I thought my AutoSummarize was almost better than the novel.

But anyway, I'm just putzing around right now, and I've given myself the evening off. Perhaps unwisely with a preliminary grant app due tomorrow morning, but what more am I going to do tonight that's going to sway the waters? Anyway, so I'm going to go write right now.


deborah grabien - Nov 18, 2003 10:03:17 pm PST #2808 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

DAMN.

First bad review (more "eh" than bad, but still), and it would have to be Publishers Weekly, wouldn't it?


Deena - Nov 18, 2003 10:08:33 pm PST #2809 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

They suck. We should smack them around. If it were a bad review instead of so-so, we'd make definite plans.

NaNo update: 11700 words. Time to go to bed.


deborah grabien - Nov 18, 2003 10:15:04 pm PST #2810 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Writewritewrite, Deena! Well, ok, sleep is good too.

Shit. That really genuinely made me cranky....

Must go sleep.


Deena - Nov 18, 2003 10:16:14 pm PST #2811 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Sorry for the serial posting. I just remembered a question I've been meaning to ask.

On average, if your manuscript is formatted properly to submit to a publisher (12 pt. courier, double spaced, as I recall), will the page count be anywhere near the same as the book that will be published from it? Is there any way to guess page count? I've been thinking my novel, you know, the one I never started until you all talked me into the nanny nanny boo boo thing, ought to be one of those approx. 300 page paperback jobs, and I'm not trying to write to that length, except that when I have a length in mind, it makes it easier for me, as if it were a particular assignment. I like writing assignments. So, I guess, what I'm asking is, if I'm writing a novel that I'd like to be around 300 pages, how many pages is my manuscript going to be?


deborah grabien - Nov 18, 2003 10:21:38 pm PST #2812 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Deena, it depends on the page size, the typeface and size used in the book, etc. Generally, the printed book will have a higher word count per page than your manuscript formatting, by a chunk.

Your best bet is a word count; if you're working in Word, that's easy enough.