That's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full.

Giles ,'Same Time, Same Place'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Consuela - Oct 29, 2003 12:50:38 pm PST #2530 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Rock on, Deb! Congratulations.


deborah grabien - Oct 29, 2003 2:02:54 pm PST #2531 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

The party at my place tonight - not to mention the one Saturday - is going to be extra-happy now.

So pleased. So incredibly pleased.


Betsy HP - Oct 29, 2003 2:59:40 pm PST #2532 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Earlier this Fall, the New Yorker made it official, by putting "WE DO NOT ACCEPT UNSOLICITED SUBMISSIONS" in the indicia. Then they pulled it; one suspects the underlying attitude remains.

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(Read the horrifying Fox News story, then scroll down to "Time to update teh site's fine print")


Susan W. - Oct 29, 2003 8:32:56 pm PST #2533 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Nitty-gritty manuscript submission questions:

DH thinks I should just print out one copy on our (hopefully) trusty inkjet, and then make copies as needed for the submission and partials. He thinks copies will be better because they won't smudge so much if something is spilled on them, plus that way we use slightly less of our toner and more of Kinko's. I'm afraid they'll make me look like I'm mass producing this thing and submitting it to all the world at once instead of following the proper protocols. Who's right, or does it matter?

Any ideas for where to get a box the right size for shipping close to a ream of paper? Only idea I had was to hope the post office had something about the right size. And how do you secure it together? I don't think they make binder clips that size.


Beverly - Oct 29, 2003 8:44:55 pm PST #2534 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Susan, there are ms. boxes available online, but you can find something appropriate at Kinko's or a UPS box store. Most editors and agents don't want the ms. bound at all. They'll keep it in its box, remove whatever chunk of paper they think they can get through in whatever time is available to them. Or so I've been told.

What I've done is take the boxed ms. to the PO and have it weighed and the appropriate postage put on the box, in stamps. Metered labels are dated, and often not accepted for mailing after that date. Then you address the box to yourself, close, but don't seal, the ms and a cover letter in the box, put the box in a padded envelope and address it to Deb's agent friend. Postage for the envelope, enough for a tracking number, and Bob's your uncle.

This is, of course, only if you want your ms. back. If you don't, then just mail the box. And best of luck!


Rebecca Lizard - Oct 29, 2003 8:50:15 pm PST #2535 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Metered labels are dated, and often not accepted for mailing after that date.

Most meters, I think, have a date/no-date option; and anyway, if you make a label for $0.00 with the correct date and stick it on next to the offending label, you're good to go.

In my mails-a-bazillion-books-a-week experience.

t ed. That'd be mailing books for APR-- heh, I so do not mail a bazillion books a week on my own steam, I barely manage one package a year.


Susan W. - Oct 29, 2003 8:51:08 pm PST #2536 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Hmm. Is there any good reason to want the manuscript back, or is that an artifact of the days where it wasn't quite so easy to print/copy a fresh one at will?


Rebecca Lizard - Oct 29, 2003 8:52:30 pm PST #2537 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

If the editor wrote notes on it, that's a reason to want it back.

Book-length MSes, though, I think people generally do not request return because it's just a pain in the ass, they're so big.


deborah grabien - Oct 29, 2003 9:02:53 pm PST #2538 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Susan, get an enormous rubber band and send in bubblebag envelopes.

I used to send in boxes, and stopped when no fewer than three editors plaintively asked me to. Not sure why.

I never did copies; I printed on demand. I didn't like the mass produced feel of copies, but we've had a laser printer in the house since the mid-eighties.


Susan W. - Oct 29, 2003 9:07:40 pm PST #2539 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan, get an enormous rubber band and send in bubblebag envelopes.

For 100,000 words and change? 486 pages?