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The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Sep 10, 2003 8:01:55 am PDT #1894 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan, can you split it out and perhaps is it two books? A novel and a sequel? (enabler)

Eh, not really. It's just one fairly simple story arc. Basically, I just made a bunch of mistakes out of inexperience that made me go too long:

1. If I thought of it, I threw it in.
2. I've got cast bloat issues, and need to discipline myself to let certain peripheral characters just be spear carriers instead of fleshing them out.
3. Wacky as this sounds, I went too far in certain cases with "show, don't tell." Just because I can make several interesting little set-pieces about Lucy's interactions with the dressmaker who makes her first ballgown doesn't mean I should, for example, and the story won't suffer at all if I just have Lucy say that she likes the dressmaker, particularly because she sides with her on trimming her new dress in red rather than a pastel like her aunt/guardian wants.

Stuff like that.

I'll definitely give you a heads-up before I send it to Marlene. I think sometime early next week will be realistic. Also, I won't expect an immediate response. BTW, I know you're not supposed to simultaneously submit to editors, but it's OK with agents, right? So if I meet an agent at conference who's interested and haven't heard back from Marlene yet, I could go ahead and send it out to the second agent?


deborah grabien - Sep 10, 2003 8:04:48 am PDT #1895 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Totally, on the multiples. I'll check with her and make sure it's cool, but I'm 99.99% positive, so long as she knows.

They only handle a few historicals and romance novels, but Marlene is a big fan of what she calls PHD romance (basically, historical stuff that's true to the times and well-researched), and may want to do it. But if she doesn't, as I say, she can hook you up with a list of the best and likeliest.


Susan W. - Sep 10, 2003 8:19:25 am PDT #1896 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Should I mention to her that I'm planning to write two sequels, both loosely connected enough to work as standalones?


deborah grabien - Sep 10, 2003 8:23:12 am PDT #1897 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yup. I'm thinking that's definitely something to include.


Susan W. - Sep 10, 2003 8:30:17 am PDT #1898 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I think I'll play it kinda cool then, and just say I have ideas for possible sequels involving the secondary characters Anna and Portia. Because both are going to require a certain amount of research to pull off. For Anna, I have to figure out in as much detail possible what was going on in the Peninsular Wars in the summer and fall of 1811, so I can figure out the best way to get her widowed, captured by the French, and determined to escape. And for Portia, I need to learn as much as possible about the American political climate circa 1818 or 1820, what Washington society looked like then, etc. Neither are things I know much about as yet, but I figure I'll go into research mode for Anna as soon as I've finished Lucy's story.


deborah grabien - Sep 10, 2003 8:43:03 am PDT #1899 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

For Anna, I have to figure out in as much detail possible what was going on in the Peninsular Wars in the summer and fall of 1811, so I can figure out the best way to get her widowed, captured by the French, and determined to escape.

Have you read Heyer's "The Spanish Bride"? It covers that in exquisite detail (the campaign itself). Based on a true story.

"Random Shots from a Rifleman" was John Kinkaid's memoir of his years on the Peninsula, but I think it's been OOP for decades. Which sucks. Because it was a brilliant vivid memoir.


Betsy HP - Sep 10, 2003 8:43:50 am PDT #1900 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

There's also Harry Smith's memoir, which I find rather dry. Heyer got all the good bits of it.


deborah grabien - Sep 10, 2003 8:44:20 am PDT #1901 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Betsy, me too - I never finished Smith's. Kinkaid's was lovely, though.


Betsy HP - Sep 10, 2003 8:45:11 am PDT #1902 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

It makes me so sad that the Smiths never had children. That has to have been devastating for them.


Betsy HP - Sep 10, 2003 8:48:07 am PDT #1903 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Oooh. Check out this page on the 95th.