Add children's fiction to that (just spotted the Carrol).
Two steaming cups of chocolate goodness. Courtesy of whomever I swiped it from out of the cupboard.
Ben ,'The Killer In Me'
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Daisy Jane - Sep 07, 2003 4:07:47 pm PDT #1836 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Betsy HP - Sep 07, 2003 5:03:06 pm PDT #1837 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Holli, keep an eye on this guy (woman?) He may well be one of the writing teachers whose goal is to turn out little clones of their own work.
It's snobbery, and stupid snobbery. Salman Rushdie is respectable but Jane Yolen is not. WhatEVer.
erikaj - Sep 07, 2003 5:05:14 pm PDT #1838 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Don't tell anyone, but the week I read something of Rushdie's was the longest month of my life.
§ ita § - Sep 07, 2003 5:06:45 pm PDT #1839 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I love what I've finished of Rushdie's. He's a favourite of mine, except I could not make it through The Satanic Verses.
Rebecca Lizard - Sep 07, 2003 6:44:12 pm PDT #1840 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket
I suspect that any half-way decently written "genre story" will count as literary fiction so far as this teacher is concerned.
I really think this is the coding he's doing. Plus, you know. My mother came home one beginning of semester and said, The problem is that none of these students *reads* anymore, they just watch television. So all they bring to class are reformulated sitcoms and summer movies!
That could be what he means, too.
I can see how it's offensive, but mmph. (And, nsm with the effective! Just telling someone, a bunch of undergraduates, that it has to have a "literary" plot, is not the magical shorthand to having clear, masterfully-plotted prose. It's just going to be a lot of purple.) Bring in what you're writing, Holli; see if he says boo.
Rebecca Lizard - Sep 07, 2003 6:46:15 pm PDT #1841 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket
(cereal: Holli, have you been to the Writers House imprint yet, and met Kerry? She's an ex- professor/workshop-leader of mine. I'd love to come visit both of you sometime.)
Holli - Sep 07, 2003 6:54:34 pm PDT #1842 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore
Kerry Wright? She's actually one of my teachers. I have her on Tuesday.
Rebecca Lizard - Sep 08, 2003 5:31:43 am PDT #1843 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket
She was Kerry Sherin as I knew her, but I guess she's using her husband's name now.
What's the class? I hope she's not the genre-hating cw professor....
Holli - Sep 08, 2003 5:45:21 am PDT #1844 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore
That's her, Liz. The class is called Writers In Community-- she is *definitely* not the genre-hater-- and from the first class last week it looked really fun. You should totally come visit!
deborah grabien - Sep 08, 2003 8:14:14 am PDT #1845 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
(banging head rhythmically against desk)
The publishing industry is driving me batshit.
That is all.
(returns to banging head rhythmically against desk)