I'm going to see to Wesley, see if he's still whimpering.

Giles ,'Chosen'


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deborah grabien - Aug 31, 2003 8:49:34 pm PDT #1788 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

What Bev said. Womens' magazines (a la Vogue and Ms and Elle, the kind with intelligent articles about intelligent women doing intelligent things).


Betsy HP - Sep 01, 2003 8:07:45 am PDT #1789 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Hey, Susan. First of all, breathe.

I've been to one RWA-sponsored conference. It was fun. But I was very very tired of the sound of women's voices by the end of it!

Dress as you would for a job interview or visiting a Methodist Sunday service. Shoot for elegant-but-comfortable. This is not a good place for jeans. (Sorry, Deb, RWA is a different world from SF cons.) I wore two of my most travelable skirt outfits; one is a rayon broomstick skirt with matching blouse, the other a knit skirt with my Chinese brocade jacket, and I fit right in. Funky is fine.

You don't have to actually sell your book at this conference. What you do need to do is network. Talk to people, but just be yourself. A friend of mine got a serious nibble from an agent because they were sitting together talking about cats while waiting for the hotel shuttle. H had no idea she was talking to an agent until the woman handed her a card and said "Send me a synopsis." Be the person we know, funny and intelligent, and you'll be fine.

Treat the talk with the editor as a practice interview. It would be better if the editor worked for a house you want to sell to, but even if she doesn't, it's practice in pitching. And whether or not the person you're talking to wants your sort of book, she may well suggest somebody at the same house who would.

Don't carry your synopsis in hand. Agents do NOT want to spend the conference with people shoving paper at them. Have it available if it's asked for, but the likeliest event is that somebody will ask you to mail it to them.


deborah grabien - Sep 01, 2003 8:10:51 am PDT #1790 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Betsy, any synopsis I'd take would be in an elegant little briefcase. But unless RWA events are totally otherworld from other genre conferences? The best thing to carry is a business card and a card case.

And yup - always treat the interview as a practice pitch. After all, it's what you're doing: pitching.


Betsy HP - Sep 01, 2003 8:12:48 am PDT #1791 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The best thing to carry is a business card and a card case.

Absolutely. Susan, you'll also want a tote bag of some sort -- many, many books and tchotchkes are given away. You can keep the synopsis in a folder in the tote bag.


Susan W. - Sep 01, 2003 8:57:55 am PDT #1792 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Hmm. Could I get by with khakis or something similar in the trouser genre for part of the time? Three days in a row of skirts feels like a lot for tomboy me, and for that time of year and the likely state of my waistline would likely require shopping, which would require money.


deborah grabien - Sep 01, 2003 9:04:31 am PDT #1793 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Well, I don't know if Betsy would agree, but I can't see why not.

BTW, just to clarify - Humongous difference between conventions and conferences. WorldCon is a convention, put on by the fans, and there are thirty thousand people who all seem to be dressed in Spock ears or as some character from Lord of the Whatever. World Fantasy (last year was in Minneapolis, I went and stayed with juliana, and I wore leather because that's what I wear and am comfortable wearing) is a conference, which is what I assume the RWA thing is. Everyone was wearing clothes, as opposed to assumed costumes; I wouldn't have worn jeans, but then, I enjoy dressing to do large public meetings. That's just me.

I could poke Marlene and ask her if she has any recs; she's a former romance writer and now an agent. She just came back from RWA, and could tell me the best moves, I imagine.


Susan W. - Sep 01, 2003 9:10:26 am PDT #1794 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

That'd be cool. I asked about clothes because when poking around on the RWA site, I was a bit intimidated by how formidably groomed some of those women looked. I mean, I have the Very Serious Black Suit that I wore last time I was interviewing for jobs, and it'll probably still fit, since I lost ten pounds between buying it and getting pregnant, and so far haven't gained anything back. But otherwise my idea of dressy clothes runs to the gypsyish.


Betsy HP - Sep 01, 2003 10:57:17 am PDT #1795 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Khakis and a pretty shirt would be fine, Susan. But I went for gypsyish myself; you haven't seen the Chinese jacket in question, but it's bright purple brocade lined with black velvet.

The thing is, at SF conventions and conferences (I've been to both), you're surrounded by fellow geeks. At RWA conferences, you're surrounded by fellow ladies. Middle-aged white ladies, to be specific. You do NOT have to dress the way people dress on the cover pictures of their novels, but you shouldn't look scruffy either. Artsy bohemian is fine.


deborah grabien - Sep 01, 2003 11:05:50 am PDT #1796 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Oh, I wouldn't consider doing scruffy in any case - nothing to do with genres or anything else. I'm out in public with strangers who share my craft? I want to look good.


Kristen - Sep 02, 2003 4:41:58 pm PDT #1797 of 10001

So because this week wasn't sucking enough already, I got my notification from SN that my Angel spec did not make the finals.

Yes, yes. Always a semifinalist, never a finalist.

ETA: And this post makes me sound more upset than I actually am. Because I'm sort of resigned to it all by now. Final nail in the scriptwriter career coffin, you know.