When we landed here you said you needed a few days to get space worthy again and is there somethin' wrong with your bunk?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Betsy HP - Jul 22, 2003 9:22:53 am PDT #1740 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

You wouldn't write an ordinary book on vellum or parchment in the 1600s. Paper. And I'm betting it isn't officially a journal, it's officially her housekeeping book -- jelly receipts interspersed with "bought 5 gills of Hungary water" interspersed, as time goes on, with journal entries.

There's a specific name for this sort of housewife's book and I'm blanking on it.


Betsy HP - Jul 22, 2003 9:26:31 am PDT #1741 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Here's a lovely Webpage on surviving cookery manuscripts that you could steal some recipes from.

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amych - Jul 22, 2003 9:29:42 am PDT #1742 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

IIRC, even printed books weren't commonly sold bound until sometime in the 19th century. You'd buy the printed sheets, and have your own binding put on them.

Given that, I very seriously doubt that bound blank books were around much before then -- keeping notes on loose paper and binding or tying them together after they were written is what I'd expect.


deborah grabien - Jul 22, 2003 9:30:11 am PDT #1743 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Betsy, that one's fun. And yup, definitely her household book. But it would also have the full story of her systematic rape and takeover by Andrew Leight, insofar as she can bring herself to write it down.


Betsy HP - Jul 22, 2003 9:32:42 am PDT #1744 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Look up what Pepys's journal was written on. That's contemporary.


deborah grabien - Jul 22, 2003 9:34:09 am PDT #1745 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Damn! Excellent point. Thanks and off to hunt.


deborah grabien - Jul 22, 2003 9:37:30 am PDT #1746 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Hmmm. OK, from the Bowdoin library, in the special collections:

John Cotton: (1584-1652). "Commentary on the First Epistle of John," by John Cotton, first minister of Boston. On paper. 1 v. (376 p.); 30 cm. Undated [17th c.]. Bound in early calf, sides outlined in gilt rules with gilt design in center, brass clasps and catches missing, back with bands, the compartments decorated in gilt. Two columns of text per page.

Paul V (1552-1621). Bull, "Dilecto Filio Officiali Zamorensi ..." Abolishing a monastery of St. James at Zamora in Spain. On vellum. 1 item (l leaf); 79 x 98 cm. September 1609. Bottom edge folded up, seal attached. Leafwork on top margin and part of left margin. Not in Bullarium Romanum or Bullarium Dominicanorum Accompanying this document is a note in the hand of George T. Little, a former Librarian of the College, which states, in part: "Sacked in Napoleonic wars, taken by French invader."

Concerning Shipp money. On paper. 1 v. (660 p.); 29 cm. 1638. Bound in early vellum. Contains the opinions of Baron Weston; Judges Crawley, Berkley, and Vernon; Baron Trevor; Judges Crook, Jones, and Hutton; Barons Denham and Davenport; Lord Finch; and Lord Chiefe Justice Bramstone.

Early vellum, vellum, calfskin.


Betsy HP - Jul 22, 2003 9:42:41 am PDT #1747 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Bound in vellum, not written on vellum. [Cept for the Papal Bull.]

I haven't had any joy with Google, other to note that Pepys's diary was part of his bequest to Magdalene College, Cambridge, and is in six bound volumes.


deborah grabien - Jul 22, 2003 9:51:43 am PDT #1748 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Googled for Seventeenth Century Paper.

Voila!


Katie M - Jul 22, 2003 5:54:47 pm PDT #1749 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

There's a specific name for this sort of housewife's book and I'm blanking on it.

Commonplace book? Or is that something else?