My heart expands / 'tis grown a bulge in't / inspired by / your beauty effulgent.

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Jul 20, 2003 7:55:25 am PDT #1701 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I like that--thanks, deb.


deborah grabien - Jul 20, 2003 8:07:56 am PDT #1702 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Welcome, ma'am.


Betsy HP - Jul 20, 2003 8:18:45 am PDT #1703 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I am never going to finish this novel and I am going to be a fucking poseuse all my life.

ARRRRRRRRGH.


deborah grabien - Jul 20, 2003 8:40:57 am PDT #1704 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Betsy, that's total pants.

You are going to finish it because I am going to stand over you and bully the crap out of you until you do.

Because I have got interested in these two women and I Want To Read What Happens, goddamnit.


Nilly - Jul 20, 2003 8:43:45 am PDT #1705 of 10001
Swouncing

{{Betsy}} I wish I had something wise to say other than just sympathy.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure you're not a 'poseuse', whatever that word means (see, I don't even know that!), because from what I got to read from you I think you have a wonderful way of intermingling words and thoughts.


Susan W. - Jul 20, 2003 8:57:43 am PDT #1706 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

{{Betsy}}

I know exactly how you feel, and often feel the same myself.


Consuela - Jul 20, 2003 9:55:11 am PDT #1707 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Betsy, just so you know, I'm in line behind Deb with the wifflebat.

You know the drill, just keep going, even if it's pants.

So says the woman who has written all of 1,000 words in the last month, all of it madly scribbled in longhand on the bus. Sigh.


Beverly - Jul 20, 2003 10:21:21 am PDT #1708 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Betsy, you will, too, finish. And it will be a fabulous success, I'm sure.

Sorry, Susan, I had gone to bed. Your book does read exactly like a high-quality regency romance, and I love the idea that the hero rides a smaller horse to keep himself "in scale," as it were. I would suggest you research, if you haven't done, whether Arabians were known or prevalent in England at your time period. When they were introduced, I remember reading, they were thought of as deformed-looking and ugly, in comparison with the current breeders' standard. So if James is going to ride an Arabian, you might want to have him do a bit of promotion and or defense for the breed, depending on what your research shows was the prevailing reception at the time for Arabians.

I like Deb's little amendment to Lucy's noticing James' eyes.

Okay, I'll confess that I was reluctant to give specific ages for my characters, because people came to adulthood and died earlier in the 12th century than they do now. If I gave my main character's age as 15, to relate to the modern reader, it would make her 25 or so by her period's standard. Or if I made her 11 or 12, the reader would never believe the actions I attribute to her. I was confused, I was writing AU, I took the coward's way out and ducked the whole question, preferring to infer age by speech and habit.

And, like Susan, I do describe the men more than the women, one character is large and "brown of eye and skin and hair" and one is dark-eyed, with hair curling over his collar, and one is older, with dark hair going silver and pale eyes. And a limp. And one has a shock of russet hair and dark eyes. Another is tall and gaunt, with a dour disposition. I describe him physically because he does loom, at times, and tall, gaunt men loom better than short round ones. Yet another one is described mostly in his grooming habits and dress, but it is mentioned at one point that he is "not much taller than she." Which doesn't give you a firm estimate of exact height, as I never say how tall "she" is, either.

I never actually found it important, and so my two group members' chiding caught me off guard. And I wondered if I'm being obstructionist and they're actually presenting a reasonable request. And if I should provide a few descriptive clues.


Susan W. - Jul 20, 2003 10:31:52 am PDT #1709 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I would suggest you research, if you haven't done, whether Arabians were known or prevalent in England at your time period.

It certainly wouldn't hurt me to do more research, but I know they were at least known, since all the Thoroughbred foundations sires were Arabians or Barbs, and that was before my time period. Late 17th or early 18th century, IIRC. So I think they were known and reasonably well-respected, though a purebred would've been rare. I've gotten around that by having Lucy, in one of the bits I cut from the excerpt above, remark on how Ghost is the first Arab she's seen outside of engravings or paintings, and having James purchase Ghost and the second horse he later gives Lucy as a wedding present from a friend who has something of an experimental breeding stable.


deborah grabien - Jul 20, 2003 10:32:39 am PDT #1710 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Bev, I had no problem inferring her age; it seemed quite clear that if she could give orders that briskly and ride as well as she did and get people to listen to her, she was whatever age a woman would be in the AU you were using to be able to pull that off.