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'Never Leave Me'


The Great Write Way  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Jul 19, 2003 10:15:15 pm PDT #1688 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

(Hoping the resounding silence means that everyone has gone to bed but me--however, if I have committed florid over-the-top description above, I'm welcome to suggested edits.)


Deena - Jul 19, 2003 10:24:21 pm PDT #1689 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Susan, I'm an ass. I read it and thought, what great voices, and, oh, he's short, how cool! and then started wondering about short heroes and how well they'd sell, and then that led to wondering about what made Amanda Quick, aka Jayne whatsises' books sell with her less than perfect heroines, including the one with the feeder hero, and that led me to thinking about romance and novels and....

Erm, it's good and I like it a lot. I really enjoy well-researched regencies. I did notice:

....I had never seen such a color before....with a faint hint of some regional accent I had not heard before

repetition of before...before


Susan W. - Jul 19, 2003 10:32:34 pm PDT #1690 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Good point--I have a bad habit of repeating words like that in a rough draft.

As for him being short, I hope it won't be a problem--she's short, too, so I haven't been brave enough in bucking romance trends to make her a tall woman with a short man. I made him that way partly because I'd already made him a handsome man with black hair and blue eyes and I didn't want him to look like he came straight from Central Casting, and partly because I happen to like the body type of such medium-short men as JM, Alexei Yagudin, and Ichiro Suzuki (though the latter at 5'10" is only short by baseball standards), so I wanted to give it to a hero.


Deena - Jul 19, 2003 10:41:51 pm PDT #1691 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Well, I've never read a novel where the hero was only 5'6", but I have read some regencies where he was 5'8" - 5'10" and comparisons were made to his 'more manly' friends and compatriots. Though, somewhere along in the novel, he surprises people with his wiry strength if he isn't introduced as being 'strongly built' at the beginning. I can only think of two at the moment, but they were well-done and enjoyable. I'm lousy at authors/titles though, so I can't tell you who did them.


Susan W. - Jul 19, 2003 10:56:47 pm PDT #1692 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Heh. I'm boggling that anyone would automatically equate taller with "more manly." I mean, haven't they looked at men like the ones I named? Humina humina....


Elena - Jul 19, 2003 11:02:54 pm PDT #1693 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

including the one with the feeder hero

Que?

I think that description is good, though you do repeat words too closely together for my personal tastes (because it's a HUGE tic of mine), but I like it.

But, another personal thing, Julius's - I think this discussion has been had before, but I would use Julius'.


Deena - Jul 19, 2003 11:06:46 pm PDT #1694 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Oh, Jayne Ann Krentz writing as Amanda Quick had a chubby heroine who got lost in the antartic or some place very cold like that, and got all slim and ethereal. The faux hero liked it and would frown at her if she reached for a second dinner roll. Our manly (and jaw-droppingly gorgeous) hero would offer her the roll, butter it for her and add more jam because he liked her with an incipient double chin, erm... a softness to the lower jaw and thought she needed feeding up; though, of course, he was bad for her and couldn't marry her. He showed his love with food. I feel like I should do a, "thereluvissopure!1!" thing here, though Ms. Krentz is all about the female orgasm, usually before she knows such a thing exists. She learns at the hands (inadvertent pun) of the hero in most of those books, I believe.


Elena - Jul 19, 2003 11:10:29 pm PDT #1695 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

I have read her only as AQ, and, somehow, the thought of the feeder hero is just as creepy as the disapproving starverer faux hero.


Susan W. - Jul 19, 2003 11:12:01 pm PDT #1696 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

But, another personal thing, Julius's - I think this discussion has been had before, but I would use Julius'.

I can't find my copy at the moment, but I'm 99% sure I'm doing it the way Strunk & White say you should.

As for repeated words, that's something I'll need to look for carefully when I'm editing this thing, because I'll be writing slowly, or get distracted or take a break between one paragraph and the next, and will honestly not notice I've done it. Just a bad habit of mine.

I'm going to go try to sleep, though I doubt it will go well, since this house is too damned hot. Sigh.


Deena - Jul 19, 2003 11:14:48 pm PDT #1697 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

She has three names, JAK, JA Castle and AQ. The feeder hero was a little creepy to me. That was AQ. Castle is a different planet with psionics and marriage contracts. I like them, though they're definitely not great literature. I believe there are only three of them, all named after flowers. The Krentz books (her real name, I believe) are like the Quicks but contemporary. They're fun too, though I've gotten tired of her naive, touchy-feely heroine/grumpy, vulcan hero thing.