It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Jul 08, 2003 10:13:38 pm PDT #1542 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Yup - daylight savings time, 4-3-2-1, ending on "shorter". A perfect gestalt.

What's not to lurve?


Steph L. - Jul 09, 2003 6:20:50 am PDT #1543 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

You people are good for my writerly self-esteem. Thanks!


deborah grabien - Jul 09, 2003 2:52:27 pm PDT #1544 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I adore my husband.

When I was having issues working out what happened next in "Matty Groves", he suggested I drabble the possibilities. The drabble is the tight little 100-word-precisely form used for the Sunday 100 fics.

I was hemming and hawing and not knowing what happened to start chapter 7. So he said, drabble. And I sat down and this is what came out:

She sits on the borrowed bed, surrounded by chintz and sentiment.

Behind her eyes there are monsters; memories of horror lurk like chimeras, just beyond her recall. A falcon screams, there's no air, she can't breathe, penetration and violation and rage and a sense of perverted ownership aimed straight at her, in the twisted soul of a ghost, a man dead four hundred years.

Somehow, she has to remember. She has to see.

She doesn't want to.

The monster behind the curtain blinks its odd-coloured eyes. Lifting a hand like the falcon's talon, it pushes the gauze of memory aside.

---

I think I'm a-gonna keep this one, and use it. I now know what happens next; I just wrote the first three pages of it.

Drabble is my friend.


Anne W. - Jul 09, 2003 3:07:01 pm PDT #1545 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Yay, Nic! Deb, that's a gorgeous passage.


amych - Jul 09, 2003 3:08:43 pm PDT #1546 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Excellent drabblage, Deb; and if you like you can tell Nic I'm taking his advice as we speak.


deborah grabien - Jul 09, 2003 3:13:03 pm PDT #1547 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I will (tell Nic).

The simplicity of the suggestion just took my breath away. It's so damned easy, and so damned right, and so completely useful. Literally, a bazillion doors open up down various paths, and force you to just walk down them, with the banner - "100 words! Stay in the theme! Don't screw it up!" floating right ahead.


Anne W. - Jul 09, 2003 3:15:58 pm PDT #1548 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Deb, FYI, I'm about halfway through the re-read of "Still Life." It re-reads very well.


deborah grabien - Jul 09, 2003 3:30:31 pm PDT #1549 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Anne, bless you, m'dear. The re-read is a good thing, and is backup for me, in case Jenn has fixes.


deborah grabien - Jul 11, 2003 8:08:44 am PDT #1550 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

OK. Not sure where to put this, but I have a minor situation and a question, so - input?

I recently edited the first chapter, synopsis and pitch letter for a novel written by a friend of Nic's boss. I yelled at him about "show don't tell", reconstructed the pitch letter from the ground up, he sent out a shitload of queries, that's all, end of my participation.

Except that the agents, based on the pitch, sent back enthusiastic "send us the first 50 pages!" letters, and the guy did. And now they're getting back "sorry, the novel is all telling not showing and it doesn't live up to the pitch."

So I just got a panicky email: can this guy and his wife (they co-wrote it) hire me to do a deep, deep edit? Can I show them how to show, not tell?

I have no idea what to charge them. I did the synopsis/pitch/look-over gratis, because it was a favour to a friend of my husband's boss. This, the guy gets to pay me for. Pat Holt (used to be my occasional boss, headed up the book review department at the SF Chronicle) has a business where writers send her their novel and $150, and she gives them general takes. This is going to be much, much more intensive: baby steps.

What in sweet hell do I charge them?


Betsy HP - Jul 11, 2003 8:14:25 am PDT #1551 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Figure out how many hours it took you to edit the first chapter. Then extrapolate to how many hours total based on that.

If it were me, I'd cost out those hours at my hourly rate for catering. Then I'd decide how much I was going to enjoy the edit, and discount accordingly.