Now hold on, I'm gonna press the right pedal harder. I expect us to accelerate.

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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Consuela - May 13, 2003 5:42:47 pm PDT #1247 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

That's Outside magazine, Deb. They publish people like Jon Krakauer and Sebastian Junger and E. Annie Proulx and Tim Cahill. And they don't publish fiction. Like, ever.

Signed, Outside subscriber since 1994.


deborah grabien - May 13, 2003 5:45:20 pm PDT #1248 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Heh. A lot of "Into Thin Air" was fiction, if you believe the Texan guy who survived the climb. (I adored the book, BTW)

But what I was thinking is, I wonder if they could recommend publications that would be interested, especially to a 9-year subscriber?


Betsy HP - May 13, 2003 5:49:21 pm PDT #1249 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I have nothing, Suela. Again. Bitch doesn't publish fiction. Ever. I don't think there are general-interest women's magazines any more; just fashion, motherhood, and crafts. (Three separate genres that blur.)


Consuela - May 13, 2003 6:21:48 pm PDT #1250 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Ever. I don't think there are general-interest women's magazines any more; just fashion, motherhood, and crafts.

Well, there are a few sports-related magazines, like "Shape" and SI: Women (are they still around?), but again, not covering fiction.


Susan W. - May 13, 2003 6:30:55 pm PDT #1251 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

SI: Women is no more.

Suela, I can't name names at the moment, since I'm at work and my Writer's Market is at home, but I know there are magazines out there that do, for lack of a better word, literary personal experience pieces. And fictionalized or no, that's what it sounds like you have to me.


victor infante - May 13, 2003 10:07:35 pm PDT #1252 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Uh, anyway, though, I'd say that from what I've always heard people say, MFA degrees don't really do anything to advance your career, per se. They're more about getting better as a writer through that practice, and networking. And one from the University of Smalltown is much different from one from, la, Columbia. ITO reputation-boosting. I really wouldn't weight them very much.

In poetry, an MFA is almost-strictly for getting a job teaching poetry, and worth little if it's not from Iowa University or UC Irvine. Indeed, in today's poetry climate, they get dismissed even easier than they probably should be. The winds of the art form are railing a bit against it's self-appointed hierarchy. A lot of poets blame academia for nearly killing the art form in the 70s and 80s, and indeed, the stranglehold a few small groups have held on the art form has led to a lot of stagnation.


Daisy Jane - May 13, 2003 10:09:16 pm PDT #1253 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Did you see the piece in Newsweek's last issue about the death of poetry?


victor infante - May 13, 2003 10:19:09 pm PDT #1254 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Did you see the piece in Newsweek's last issue about the death of poetry?

Yeah, my response goes up within the week on About Poetry. Bloody worst article on the subject I've ever read.


Daisy Jane - May 13, 2003 10:25:46 pm PDT #1255 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Will you post a link please?


Betsy HP - May 13, 2003 10:31:15 pm PDT #1256 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Bloody worst article on the subject I've ever read.

Considering how many times somebody writes that particular essay, being the worst you've ever seem is an awesome achievement.