Wesley: We're going to bring Angelus in alive. Connor: No we're not. Gunn: I thought you said capturing him wasn't an option. Wesley: Changed my mind. Connor: Change it back.

'Why We Fight'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Sep 22, 2006 8:30:55 am PDT #9647 of 10001
information libertarian

I think there should be a collective web site where secret info about certain manufacturers can be found, i.e. Don't buy pants from LLBean unless you have a waist-hip ratio greater than X; Isaac Mizrahi for Target is cut long-waisted; etc. Except manufacturers do not size consistently within their own brand, I have found!


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2006 8:32:46 am PDT #9648 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think there should be a collective web site where secret info about certain manufacturers can be found

I'm discovering, I've been pretty much an Ann Taylor Loft 6, and almost still am, just that I've never bumped into their hip/thigh sizings quite as hard as I have these past few days. I'm not their shape anymore!


flea - Sep 22, 2006 8:35:54 am PDT #9649 of 10001
information libertarian

Unfortunately, I am pretty much nobody's shape for dresses - too long-waisted. I have vowed never to buy another dress off the rack again.


Steph L. - Sep 22, 2006 8:36:23 am PDT #9650 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I don't know Steph, I think JZ is right on this one.

Pish! I play Sexy M.F. all the time while I'm driving!

I think (as JZ pointed out) it's a good city driving song, but not necessarily a good long haul/highway song.

Pish! I say again. Pish!


Vortex - Sep 22, 2006 8:37:17 am PDT #9651 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I goddamned hate it when people try and dump their work on me. "ita, can you supply them the information they requested in their template format?"

No.


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2006 8:38:23 am PDT #9652 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am pretty much nobody's shape for dresses - too long-waisted.

Do you dislike the empire cut? That should work independent of how long- or short-waisted you are. Also columnar dresses, of which I have more than a few.


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2006 8:38:46 am PDT #9653 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No.

Oddly enough, that's what I said.


flea - Sep 22, 2006 8:40:41 am PDT #9654 of 10001
information libertarian

Empire is a no for me. I am so tall all over that I look weird in empire waists, especially if the dress is short. I don't know that I've ever seen a truly columnar dress in a store (except spandex tubes).


Typo Boy - Sep 22, 2006 8:41:32 am PDT #9655 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

As far as U.S. foreign policy goes, yeah not so great. We do tend to screw over people for our own economic and geopolitical gain. Like Fred Pete said, there have been some good moments, but I sure can think of a lot of bad ones especially now. Now I don't think the U.S. is authoritarian despite the current administrations attempt to consolidate executive power.

Don't think authoritarian is a binary, but a spectrum. I mean I don't think there is a nation in the world with 100% respect for civil liberities. But right now, the executive branch has the authority to arrest anyone and hold them without trial or charge. Yeah there re supreme court decisions, but it is up to exective to enforce them. We have anti-terror laws where someone can be arrested for giving to a charity that is later declared terrorist, even if it was not so declared at the time the money was given - not to mention that there is no formal review process for adding a group to that list; it is mainly at the discretion of the exective branch. Also we have a history of authoritarianism - slavery, the alien and sedition laws, the use of force against the labor movement in the 19th and 20th centuries, Jim Crow, the red scare, sticking Japanese-Americans in concentration camps during WWII, the McCarthy Era, Cointel-pro, the drug-war, and the war against Terra (not a typo). We usually think of ourselves as a nation of with great civil liberties by labeling these things as exceptions. But it seems like we never go more than a few years without some excuse for massively denying civil liberites to huge numbers of people and subjecting them to arbitrary authority.

I think it is like a frequent serious binge drinker. About the fifth bar fight/waking up in a strange bed with a scumball next to you and not remembering how you got there, the time comes to admit you have a drinking problem. It is time for U.S. Americans to admit that we have a fear problem, that we are too easily scared into surrendering our liberties, and that it is not a new thing.


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2006 8:42:58 am PDT #9656 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know that I've ever seen a truly columnar dress in a store (except spandex tubes).

I have a few T-shirt cut dresses (but in different materials) that fit that bill, as well as a couple tank dresses. Not relevant to what's in stores now, but a lot of the 60s stuff that I was scoping on eBay had identical waist and hip measurements.