Just keep walking, preacher-man.

River ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Sep 21, 2006 5:51:11 am PDT #9436 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Remember that Canadian who was abducted and tortured by the US, only to be proven innocent?

In an embarrassing turnabout, the Department of Justice backed away Wednesday from a denial by Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales of responsibility for the treatment of a Canadian who was seized by American authorities in 2002. The man was deported to Syria, where he was imprisoned and beaten.

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The attorney general’s comments caused puzzlement because they followed front-page news articles of the findings of the Canadian commission. It reported that based on inaccurate information from Canada about Mr. Arar’s supposed terrorist ties, American officials ordered him taken to Syria, an action documented in public records.

On Wednesday, a Justice Department spokesman said Mr. Gonzales had intended to make only a narrow point: that deportations are now handled by the Department of Homeland Security, not the Department of Justice.

[link]


brenda m - Sep 21, 2006 5:58:23 am PDT #9437 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Appalling. So he was intending to obfuscate, rather than flat out lie? Whoops.

And a telling little tidbit from the article -

In October 2003, Mr. Arar was released by Syria, where officials found no evidence that he had any connection to terrorism, and returned to Canada.

It occurs to me that he might actually be fortunate that he was in the hands of the freaking Syrians because it seems that the government of this country doesn't tend to connect the words "no connection to terrorism" with "release" anymore. But we are right on top of the word "torture."


Theodosia - Sep 21, 2006 5:59:44 am PDT #9438 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

... yeah, because it's pretty clear now that Security trumps Justice every time in this present Administration. Torture 'em all, and then let them rot in Gitmo, until either God sorts them out, or else the current administration is out of office.


Nutty - Sep 21, 2006 6:21:22 am PDT #9439 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Don't you know? Justice IS Security. Cause it's not like Justice is that concerned about the spirit of the law.

I have a lot of tech knowledge in my life and regrettably no boobs.

So, if he did have boobs, he would sit at home all day and feel himself up? Do you think he would feel erquired to pay himself for this service?


Sean K - Sep 21, 2006 6:23:34 am PDT #9440 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

So, if he did have boobs, he would sit at home all day and feel himself up?

That's all John Crichton wanted to do when he finally got a pair of his own....


Connie Neil - Sep 21, 2006 6:26:32 am PDT #9441 of 10001
brillig

That African princess grew up in a town very near where I grew up, and being a black person on the rural West Virginia-Pennsylvania border would be an adventure I wouldn't wish on anyone. Kudos to her folks for being of a nobler sort.


tommyrot - Sep 21, 2006 6:28:03 am PDT #9442 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It was either Bevis or Butthead who said, "If I had boobs like that, I'd never leave the house."

(Or it's possible I'm conflating the quote with something else.)


tommyrot - Sep 21, 2006 6:35:40 am PDT #9443 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Remember the face on Mars? Turns out that from other angles it doesn't really look like a face....

Story: [link]

A strong myth developed, holding that the Face was an artificial structure built by some ancient civilization. Surrounding pyramids—also just interesting-looking massifs—fueled the myth. Last year, a study helped explain why: People see faces that aren't there—on Mars or in clouds—because we have "over-learned" to recognize the human face.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2006 7:07:38 am PDT #9444 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you think he would feel erquired to pay himself for this service?

There's a good chance he's owed that--I'm betting he already fixes his own computer issues.

Humans? Over-recognising the human face? Now there's a shocker.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 21, 2006 7:10:21 am PDT #9445 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It was either Bevis or Butthead who said, "If I had boobs like that, I'd never leave the house."

(Or it's possible I'm conflating the quote with something else.)

It's possible, as I DEFINITELY remember them making a comment like that wrt a (Marilyn Manson?) vidoe where they showed a stop-motion arm going up and down at high-speed, and how "If I could do that, I'd never leave the house." However, I wouldn't put it past Mike Judge to re-use a joke that good though.