SA, you chose wisely.

Kathy, I'd need product for them. I don't know that the first would need a half hour blow out, but it might require some other styling (hot rollers, velcro rollers, or a curling iron) depending on your hair.

(I could, with a comb and some time in the mornings, do #2 with no product no problem, but I have an insane amount of hair.)

I could do #2 but I would need some blow drying (maybe five minutes) and product. I don't have an insane amount of hair, but I have enough wave that my hair generally does what I tell it.

Also, I'm seconding ChiKat's question. When is the last time you used product, and what did you use? There are lots of weightless products now, and generally, if you towel dry and maybe let it air dry for a few, then put the product in (a small amount) and use a blow dryer for a few minutes, you won't end up with that sticky feel, or really--any feel at all. The only sort of products you're going to feel are those you put in after your hair is dry: spray, wax, paste (or if you put in gel or mousse after your hair was dry, I suppose you'd feel them, too).

Actually, I had a thought about something we were perhaps missing from the kink discussionn where things seemed to be veering uncomfortably judgmental for some people. It seems to me that its society's "fucked-up"ness as much, or perhaps more than the individual's, that goes into determining/defining what is "kinky". In fetishland, it's all about the individual. But I think the appeal of the kink doesn't necessarily have to do with internal repression.

Yeah. I ended up abandoning three different comments on the discussion yesterday, because I couldn't find the words I wanted, but brenda, you've hit on it. And actually I don't even think the definition has to get judgmental about society, either. A kink is a deviation from the norm. It's all about numbers. Hec was inserting psychology in the question, when it's really (I think, by definition) a sociological one.

Where and why an individual may deviate is where you could bring in psychology, but that's not what defines the kink. It's a kink if it's unusual. People are early adopters of practices, or adopters of non-standard practices, for all sorts of reasons. Can pathology be one of those reasons? Sure, but it doesn't have to be. Also, I think "twist" rather than "bent" is a better definition, but that's bringing the dictionary back into it.

For the last day or so, I've been confusing this thread and Bitches. We've been talking Swedes and hair over here, and migraines and temp jobs over there. sarameg and msbelle were the only landmarks I had to orient myself, this morning.

Hee, I know. And then Daniel and Andi were borking at each other in Bitches this morning, so I was extra confused.

YES! The borking.

Daniel and Andi were borking at each other in Bitches this morning

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Oh. At each other.

Nevermind.

I also have been having thread confusion. Fwiw, I agree with Brenda and Cindy's comments about the kink conversation. I generalized my response because I couldn't figure out how to say what I was thinking without it sounding like kerfuffle contribution, but that's basically what I wanted to say.

Drew and I are already up and in the car. Whee.

woke up with a combination of gronk and owwww ( from painting) and had bizzare dreams about cruises , people on the food network and honey or cherry glazeing my walls. Not awake, but don't want to go back to that world either

Opa

Opa = Greek for "Hey man, your cheese is on fire."

Also bork.

And gronk.

Well, I bought my new tv.

Unfortunately, I don't think the picture is going to improve much, since what I actually received in return for my four hundred and fifty dollars was an assortment of dog vaccines, bloodwork, and urinalysis that do not solve my tv problem one tiny bit.

Unfortunately, I don't think the picture is going to improve much, since what I actually received in return for my four hundred and fifty dollars was an assortment of dog vaccines, bloodwork, and urinalysis that do not solve my tv problem one tiny bit.

Can you make the dog stand by the tv and hold the antenna?

For $450, that dog had better BE the antenna!