Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.

'Selfless'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 04, 2006 9:42:32 am PDT #653 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hey Matt, any improvement with your dad?

Some in terms of mood, offset by greater physical weakness/shakiness and the frustration that goes with it as of last night and this morning. Still, we're now on more familiar ground. And as I said to Mom, I'll take frustrating problems over scary ones any day.


Jars - Aug 04, 2006 9:43:15 am PDT #654 of 10001

I can never decide if I'm more offended by Creationism and ID because it renders my entire profession and related fields useless, or if it amuses me more because of that...


Sean K - Aug 04, 2006 9:43:54 am PDT #655 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Cindy considers the threshold for those questions, it seems, to be exceeded, and therefore she doesn't regard the results with confidence.

So then, how do we tell if the poll is giving bad data, because of bad questions, or if it's just one person taking issue with the results, but the poll and the data is still good?


Sean K - Aug 04, 2006 9:51:24 am PDT #656 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I guess I'm just responding to the fact that Cindy's arguments about the subtle differences between various interpretations and personal definitions of Biblical literalism aren't very convincing to me. I quite understand that this is something where specific definitions of "literal" are going to be different from person to person, but there's enough similarity in the concepts that it is actually meaningful to me to know how many people believe in Biblical literalism or inerrancy -- if for no other reason than because these are terms I always hear from believers, not areligious outsiders trying to give unwanted label to something.


Jessica - Aug 04, 2006 9:54:26 am PDT #657 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I have never encountered working definitions of "literal" or "inerrant" that were not sufficiently removed from my own working definitions of "open to interpretation" and "metaphorical" that gradations in the levels of literalism/inerrancy were of any great significance.


Emily - Aug 04, 2006 10:01:06 am PDT #658 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Hey, Sean? I drove through Sarnia on this trip. Tell me I'm not the only one who remembers the Sarnia hand gesture.


Nutty - Aug 04, 2006 10:01:31 am PDT #659 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I was going to say: dictionary. "Literal" is not a word that should be open to interpretation, unless you are literally illiterate.

All polls take complex situations and squash them into boxes of varying fit. But by making the respondent choose among [foo] number of choices, the poll-maker is recording the decision the respondent made, not just the choice she ended up going with.


Polter-Cow - Aug 04, 2006 10:05:42 am PDT #660 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But by making the respondent choose among [foo] number of choices

Heh. You study computer programming too?


Nutty - Aug 04, 2006 10:07:31 am PDT #661 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

No; I picked up that expression from here. Betsy, specifically, from whom I also picked up "wossname."


Sean K - Aug 04, 2006 10:07:56 am PDT #662 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Tell me I'm not the only one who remembers the Sarnia hand gesture.

Oh no. You're not. I think of the gesture, and that conversation in general, from time to time. And, if the last visits I made back to Michigan are any indication, there's a few other people who remember the gesture too. I'm pretty sure Joe and I have talked about it from time to time as well.