Early: So is it still her room when it's empty? Does the room, the thing, have purpose? Or do we -- what's the word? Simon: I really can't help you. Early: The plan is to take your sister. Get the reward, which is substantial. 'Imbue.' That's the word.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lee - Sep 05, 2006 6:03:35 pm PDT #6153 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I WANT TO READ THE BB WHITEFONT.

I'm not though.


Kristen - Sep 05, 2006 6:03:48 pm PDT #6154 of 10001

I was going to say that even "in California history" is overstating it, considering this is the state that gave us the Zodiac Killer.

Well, you take approximately 200 books, fiction and non-fiction, written about the Black Dahlia, including the ones written by people who think their Daddy did it. Plus the number of true crime TV specials that re-investigate the murder every few years. Add in one upcoming movie and the aforementioned Hunter episode and I do think Elizabeth Short wins by a landslide.

Though now I'm wondering...do they have a Zodiac Killer Bus Tour too?


Ailleann - Sep 05, 2006 6:12:56 pm PDT #6155 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Mmmmm.... House.

ION, I got my TiVo today and it's awesome!

hugs TiVo


sarameg - Sep 05, 2006 6:21:39 pm PDT #6156 of 10001

I want to kick the patriarchy so hard their balls lodge next to their hearts and are smashed in pain with every heartbeat.

( just watched a PBS thing in which an Indian father said "but who would do the housework" in reference to his daughter attending night school in which she was doing all the fucking wait-work plus schooling herself. Your sons who are fooling around all day free of responsibility, maybe?)

Ahem. Issues. Culture, schmulture.


Lee - Sep 05, 2006 6:42:30 pm PDT #6157 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

BB: YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!!


Vortex - Sep 05, 2006 7:07:36 pm PDT #6158 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't have a particular interest in true crime, but I'd heard of the Black Dahlia case. Though, I couldn't really tell you any details. Just one of those things you've heard of.

I sort of knew about it. I knew that it was a Hollywood murder in the 40s or 50s, a single mother, and her son wrote the book, I think? Tried to solve the crime when he was an adult?


Sean K - Sep 05, 2006 7:21:12 pm PDT #6159 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Anybody else watch Standoff? I'm part way through and loving it a lot. Gina Torres and Ron Livingston. Plus Michael Cudlitz, who's been a supporting player in a bunch of stuff, but really grabbed my attention in Band of Brothers.


SuziQ - Sep 05, 2006 7:22:48 pm PDT #6160 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I came in here to see if anyone else was doing the GINA TORRES dance. Hi Sean!


Kristen - Sep 05, 2006 7:23:46 pm PDT #6161 of 10001

Elizabeth Short was an aspiring actress who was found murdered in 1947. The crime gained a lot of notoriety given the condition she was found in. Her body was cut in half, her mouth slashed from ear to ear and there were signs that she'd been tortured. There was a big media to-do with a lot of guys confessing to the murder and a bunch of taunting notes that the "killer" sent to the police and newspapers.

As far as I know, she didn't have any children. Two years ago, a retired LAPD officer by the name of Steve Hodel wrote a book detailing his theory that his father murdered Elizabeth Short. (Along with, I think, 30 other women.) It got a bit of press. Mostly, I think, due to James Ellroy's endorsement of the theory.


beekaytee - Sep 05, 2006 7:33:52 pm PDT #6162 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

January Man

This one featured calendar-based killings but I don't think it was about the Zodiac Killer per se.

Not a divinely crafted film, but it did have some impressive moments. (And features Alan Rickman in a supporting role along with a generally cool cast.)

My favorite bit was at the very end when the killer is revealed. Everyone in the theatre was doing a serious Agatha Christie toting up of clues...then, it was as if we all ran over to look at the baddie. An extra asks Who is it? Kevin Kline replies, Nobody...that's the point.

I felt really busted in my hubris over being able to figure plotlines out and, at the same time, really appreciated the 'closer to real-life' aspect of some bad guys just being guys who are bad, as opposed to flashy, intelligent or super-obviously evil.

Plus, the scene where Kevin tells Mary Elizabeth that he could bs her, or he could just tell the truth, that he wants to sleep with her (after just meeting for about 10 minutes!) and that there are 5 hotels within easy walking distance of their restaurant. And she goes with him!

That also seemed like life.