Spike: At least give me Wesley's office since he's gone. Angel: He's not gone. He's on a leave of absence. Spike: Yeah, right. Boo-hoo. Thought he killed his bloody father. Try staking your mother when she's coming on to you! Harmony: Well…that explains a lot.

'Destiny'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


dcp - Sep 01, 2006 8:30:12 am PDT #5624 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Picture of a jet airliner being struck by lightning. [link] The lightning actually goes through the plane and continues down to the ground. Apparantly this happens a lot, and there's almost never any negative consequences to it.

Metal aircraft can handle lightning strikes better than composite aircraft. NCAR uses a modified Schweizer SGS 2-32 sailplane for it's lightning research: [link] I saw it up close once when it was getting an annual inspection back in the late 1980s. The inspector told me that the lightning strikes usually just melt "small holes" in the skin. They had several repair options, depending on number, size, and position: ignore it, tape it over, do a small surface patch, or replace the whole panel. They really hated to have to replace a panel.

Electricity runs along the surface of the object it contacts unless the entire thing is made of a conductive material like copper, right?

Don't count on it.

From [link]

"The AAIB report makes the point that the sailplane was constructed almost entirely of glass reinforced plastic (GRP) with foam or honeycomb sections bonded together—materials that are electrically non-conductive. The report goes on to note that the most significant factor in this accident was the formation of lightning arcs within the enclosed volumes of the wings and fuselage. These, in turn, caused damaging shock waves and high overpressures that induced the structural disintegration."

More detail in HTML [link] or PDF [link]

Gotta love the understated British humor:

...the glider was struck by lightning and large sections of its airframe disintegrated.

From that moment, the instructor later stated that his memory was not particularly clear. He remembered hearing a 'very loud bang' and then 'feeling very draughty'; he also believed that he may have momentarily lost consciousness. On recovering, he felt dazed and remembered slowly becoming aware that 'something was seriously amiss' and that this was 'a real emergency requiring unpleasant and decisive action'. He was able to shout to his student in the front cockpit two or three times to undo his straps and abandon the glider but, owing to some impairment of his hearing, the student was unable to hear him clearly. The student had already decided to abandon the glider and, after he had departed, the instructor followed but was surprised when he realised that he had not had to jettison his cockpit canopy. It was estimated that both parachutes had successfully inflated by 1,800 feet agl.

...Apart from the damage to the hearing of both occupants, 'sooting' to the upper part of the instructor's jacket, parachute pack and the hair on the back of his head, neither suffered any major injuries as a result of the lightning strike. The student pilot landed on the roof of a disused petrol station adjacent to a busy road in the village of Northall, but escaped major injury. The instructor descended into a nearby field and suffered a broken ankle upon landing. The rescue services were quickly on the scene and both occupants were taken to hospital; the student pilot was allowed to return home later that evening and the instructor was released four days later after surgery to his ankle.


And an earlier incident with a composite sailplane cited in the AAIB report itself:
"The most recent known severe lightning strike to a glider in the UK occurred to a LS-4 glider on 31 July 1988. Despite receiving a shock from the control column, the pilot managed to land the glider. There was severe (continued...)


dcp - Sep 01, 2006 8:30:24 am PDT #5625 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

( continues...)

delamination of the left wing tip and aileron, and delamination of the elevator trailing edge. The right wing tip had many holes of several mm in length present in the surface. The examination of that glider concluded that the lightning discharge had traversed through the glider, wing tip to wing tip, and that arcs had formed within the wing. The explosive forces generated by these arcs were sufficient to cause the delaminations."


Toddson - Sep 01, 2006 8:30:32 am PDT #5626 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Just popping in to mention - someone mentioned "brown" ladybugs a while ago. Check carefully - they might be carpet beetles. The adults eat dead things. The larvae eat natural fibers. I found this out the hard way.


sarameg - Sep 01, 2006 8:31:59 am PDT #5627 of 10001

[link]

The green stuff? guacamole.

Seriously. The woman is whacked.


lisah - Sep 01, 2006 8:32:47 am PDT #5628 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

The green stuff? guacamole.

I clicked the link with one eye closed. It was not enough eyes to be closed.


bon bon - Sep 01, 2006 8:33:14 am PDT #5629 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The green stuff? guacamole.

First, OMG. OMG. Second, that is such an abomination to one of the world's perfect foods. Third, is that green-dyed cool whip?


Frankenbuddha - Sep 01, 2006 8:33:42 am PDT #5630 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The green stuff? guacamole.

It looks like it might meet the approval of the American Dental Society, at least.


brenda m - Sep 01, 2006 8:33:58 am PDT #5631 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Just popping in to mention - someone mentioned "brown" ladybugs a while ago.

Oh, those fucking aphids? Hate hate hate.


sarameg - Sep 01, 2006 8:34:02 am PDT #5632 of 10001

Third, is that green-dyed cool whip?

NO! That's the "guacamole"!!!


msbelle - Sep 01, 2006 8:36:37 am PDT #5633 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

you all need to stop.